Talk:Dalmatian identity

"Dalmatian National Party"

R-41, I gave you the benefit of the doubt here, but it appears you are pasting stuff from google books previews without proper context. The phrase Dalmatian National Party in those books means Dalmatian + National Party IOW People's Party (Dalmatia). So what you're seeing as the Croatian nationalist party in the Goldstein reference is exactly the same thing as what Magaš and others are describing. Please pay more attention.

Also, I'm not sure what the translation of this term is in Croatian so that I could verify it. Particularly the connection of Dalmatian Action to the 19th century Autonomists. It looks like a WP:SYNTH violation. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 19:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

I am removing it for now, from what it said it sounded like its own party. I didn't say that Dalmatian Action is connected to the 19th century Autonomists. They did both support autonomy of Dalmatia though.--R-41 (talk) 21:24, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

But autonomy from what exactly? The state or the nation? Because that seems like the difference. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 23:40, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Given no response, and Google Books Search for "Dalmatianism" "Dalmatian Action" returning only 1 hit:

JPRS report: East Europe - Izd. 17-24 - Stranica 34

books.google.com/books?id=OA8UAQAAMAAJ

United States. Joint Publications Research Service, United States. Foreign Broadcast Information Service - 1991

Further down, in the center of Dalmatia, the new Dalmatian Action Party is represented under Croatian, Yugoslav, and ... Dalmatianism, the demand for autonomy of Dalmatia, the refusal of its remaining on the periphery of cultural events and a ...

When I click through, I see a paragraph about DA, but don't see Dalmatianism mentioned.

When I search for Janusz Bugajski "Ethnic Politics in Eastern Europe" Dalmatianism, I get:

Ethnic Politics in Eastern Europe: A Guide to Nationality ... - Stranica 483

books.google.com/books?isbn=1563242834

Janusz Bugajski - 1995

A Guide to Nationality Policies, Organizations, and Parties : With a New Postscript Janusz Bugajski ... 67 Croatian Social Liberal Party, 47 Dalmatian Action (Croatia), 63-64, 65 Dalmatian National Party (Croatia), 66 Dalmatinska Akcija.

So, absent actual verification, I'll relegate the mention of those two parties here to See also. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 11:03, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Kavanjin

See Talk:Jerolim Kavanjin#Dalmatianism. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 11:17, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

nationalism, patriotism, autonomism

The topic still isn't defined properly - I checked two references and found significant disparities in interpretation. If we want to describe this in the most generic terms possible, autonomism (political doctrine) seems like the term, but that article in turn is unreferenced and its examples are modern, not contemporaneous with 19th century romantic nationalism. Even regionalism (politics) is unreferenced. This is looking more and more like a hodgepodge. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 13:53, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

diferences between slavic and ilirian dalmatianism

In Dalmatia there are some Croats who support idea of croatian nationalism , but there are also ethnic Dalmatians , who claims to be descedants of iliric tribe of Dalmata and latin inhabitants of Dalmatia . Ilirian Dalmatians are gathered in so called Dalmatian National Party ( founded 2008 ) , not to be confused with Dalmatinska Narodna Stranka which is pro croatian party from 19th century — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.143.118.153 (talk) 20:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

There is no a political party under that name in Croatia. It may be something like that in the past, but it was probably an obscure and marginal party. Walter9 (talk) 12:45, 18 December 2023 (UTC)