Talk:Dan Dugan (audio engineer)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: MathewTownsend (talk · contribs) 15:20, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Will start review shortly. Interesting topic! MathewTownsend (talk) 15:20, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Beginning comments

• "with its external reference microphone" "internal reference" - what are these?
• "A further gain limiting development improved the design."
• "When his infant son was two months old, U.S. Navy Commander P. F. Dugan took command of the attack transport USS Doyen, and led her in support of five invasion operations." - I think this is off topic and should be removed
• "Dancing on the Green." - what is this?
• "Dugan changed from lighting design to sound design in 1967." - why?
• Journal - is that the complete name?
• "Dugan mixed sound for many seasons" - clumsy
• "When his infant son was two months" - redundant - When his son was two months old - or - When his son was an infant

(will continue) MathewTownsend (talk) 00:15, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Initial responses

• Deleted questionable "external" and "internal" bits from lead section.
• Deleted specifics about further improvements from lead section.
• Deleted bit about father's wartime service and the infant son bit.
• Defined "Dancing on the Green"
• I don't know why Dugan changed from lighting to sound. There is no information I could find. I guess I could call him up and ask! Heh heh.
• Changed to Journal of the Audio Engineering Society, the correct title
• The wording is pretty much straight from his online bio: my "mixed sound for many seasons" versus his "provided sound services for many seasons". Anyway, I changed it to the following: "Dugan supplied sound services at the outdoor venue in Napa, California." Binksternet (talk) 21:04, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Beginning replies

• "He was the first person to be called a sound designer" - this seems to over state the source a little - who was the first to call him a sound designer?

• The source says "As far as can be determined, the first person to actually be called a sound designer was Dan Dugan ..." but then it goes on to name other people as the first to receive awards in sound design and doesn't list him. Perhaps you could qualify the sentence a little, since that part seems vague. Especially since "sound design" hasn't been explained in the article.
• Could you give an example of "sound design" - exactly what does it entail?
• What makes it "automatic" -- what is being made automatic (versus manual, I guess)?
• This link helps a lot:[1] Maybe you could include some of this information, so the general reader understands.
• "and a further improvement was devised." (from lede) - could this be more specific?

Some suggested fixes

• I found a source saying that other guys in London and New York were credited first as sound designers, but that Dugan was the first regional sound designer.
• I gave a bit of info about early sound design.
• I added some info about what automatic means in terms of mixing microphone signals: VCAs.
• Added info about further improvement, to prevent acoustic feedback. Binksternet (talk) 04:30, 18 January 2012 (UTC)

GA review-see WP:WIAGA for criteria (and here for what they are not)

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose: clear and concise, correct spelling and grammar:

   B. Complies with MoS for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. Provides references to all sources:

   B. Provides in-line citations from reliable sources where necessary:

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Main aspects are addressed:

   B. Remains focused:

4. Does it follow the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

• I've made a few edits and added some links, which I'm glad to see you have actively editted.[2] A very interesting article. Congratulations! MathewTownsend (talk) 17:36, 19 January 2012 (UTC)