Talk:Danava (Hinduism)
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Ksatriya association
editOn 13 September 2008, an editor at IP address 76.124.118.172 deleted the sentence: "The Danavas in the Mahabharata have been identified with the Ksatriya kings with an associated date of about 3,200 BCE." I have restored the sentence and requested a citation. I note that Ksatriya may be spelled either Ksatriya or Kshatriya. --Bejnar (talk) 16:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- Changed Ksatriya kings to Indus Valley Civilization, per Senoupta, Prabodh Chandra (1951) "The Dānavas in the Mahābhārata" Journal of the Asiatic Society Series 3, 17: pp. 177-184, p.182. --Bejnar (talk) 17:02, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Bonafides of authors
editThis article reeks of dilettantism. It is another proof of the flawed principles underlying the Wikipedia, namely that specialist knowledge, such as found in the traditional multivolume printed encyclopaedias, can be "democratised". 84.144.125.182 (talk) 06:54, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
I agree, but can we get it removed if we show that actual credible historians don't accept this theory? --Nightpotato (talk) 08:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
The origin of pagan idolatry
editIn my opinion this book is not a reliable reference.In Greek mythology Danaus has Egyptian origin and Kadmos Phoenecian and it shows the connections with the East,but their is not any evidence that the Guthic-sheperds kings of Egypt were culture carriers.The theory of culture carriers is rejected by modern scholars.There were two main streams from the East to Europe,the nord African stream and the near Eastern stream but these were in the longer past.In Greece in about 1500BC existed two main different civilizations the Minoan (in Creta) and the Helladic.The Minoan is considered the most advanced civilization in the Aegean in that period, while the Helladic was not advanced.Creta had a strong influence from Egypt,but it's civilization had it's own peculiarity and identity.Recent studies have prooved that there is not a discontinuity in culture between the Minoan and the Greek civilization.In the book is mentioned that Da-naus is derived from Noah,Dio-nysos from Da-nush and that the names of all Greek gods come from the East.This is not a neutral point of view.Axosman (talk) 07:01, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
False cognates?
editThere is no way to prove that there is absolutely no connection to Danaus, Danuna, Dan, etc. While it's best not to surrender to speculation, we can't flatly rule out a possible connection either (etymological or otherwise.) Doing so would mean cynically shutting out possible answers and facts to unsolved questions, which isn't good for any historian. So, why can't Danava be cognate to Danaus? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.81.93.243 (talk) 06:39, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Should there not be a connection with Rigveda 1.32.9 f.
editShould there not be a connection with Rigveda 1.32.9 f. (http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv01032.htm), where Danu quite likely means the constellation Eridanus (which was also a river)? This connection with the river Eridanus seems for me much more likely then this with the river danube (Donau), which is nowhere mentioned in the vedic texts.--87.178.205.98 (talk) 16:32, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
Speculative Mayan-India mumbo-jumbo
editHalf of this article is speculation on a connection between Mayan and Hindu cultures, with no references absurd formatting.
Frankly, those sections need to be deleted entirely, if not heavily cleaned up and sourced. It's outrageous that this article isn't even tagged for having issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.162.219.150 (talk) 20:59, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- I second the sentiment. I just added a NPOV tag. 0nlyth3truth (talk) 18:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I am confused by your comment. As I read the article the section on Mayan cultural influences appears to be related to a god Maya that is of completely Indian origin. I did not see any reference to South American Mayan culture. It is entirely possible that two unrelated cultures could male use of a two syllable sound to mean different things. MAybe I am wrong but I don't see what you are talking about? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:346:303:EB9:9D71:AA65:59B1:6A05 (talk) 22:58, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
- Then it should be more specific as to what it's talking about. There aren't even any references to clarify or back up the claims being made. Especially since it's going to suggest connections with other cultures like those of Egypt and Greece... which is a link I've not heard of outside of pseudoscientific circles. 76.106.190.24 (talk) 22:25, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
plagiarism
editI have deleted the line, “The name is connected with the PIE root *danu, "river" or "any flowing liquid." This line was directly copied from this website. http://www.hindupedia.com/en/Dānava#cite_note-12 +++green+++graveyard (talk) 11:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Possible identification
editThe Danavas as offspring oft the goddess Danu seem to be identical with the Tuatha de Danan oft the irisch mythology which are also said to be offspring oft a goddess Danu. 79.206.39.38 (talk) 18:21, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
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