Talk:Dance with the Devil (Immortal Technique song)

Sources

I've boldly restored this. The song has attracted coverage in numerous books that are independent of the subject: [1] [2] [3] [4] (more on p90). Then there is this "Technique couldn’t finish the show without playing his cult classic “Dance With The Devil,” because for many people, it’s the first song they ever listened to by the independent hip-hop artist." and this One of Immortal Technique’s most chilling parables, “Dance With the Devil,” and [5] "Technique first gained some notoriety with the release of American Revolutionary Vol 1, which featured the dark and gruesome tale of “Dance with the Devil,” Technique’s most notable song.". Altogether I think these make it clear that WP:NSONG is met. @RoySmith, Anarcho-authoritarian, Czar, MartinJones, and Onel5969: I'm happy to take it to DRV, but it seems so straightforward to me that hopefully that isn't necessary. SmartSE (talk) 10:53, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

@Smartse, the links I could access show passing mentions, not any sign of significant coverage for the song's independent notability from the album. It's standard procedure to cover the song within context of the album's article before splitting out (summary style expansion). (not watching, please {{ping}}) czar 16:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Revisited

This has still continued to gain coverage since the last AFD. Here's those listed above and some more. The coverage varies in detail, but to me clearly demonstrates a major cultural influence that is independent of the album:

• Jr, Raphael Travis (14 December 2015). The Healing Power of Hip Hop. ABC-CLIO. ISBN 978-1-4408-3131-7. One paragraph
• Rabaka, Reiland (31 March 2011). Hip Hop's Inheritance: From the Harlem Renaissance to the Hip Hop Feminist Movement. Lexington Books. ISBN 978-0-7391-6482-2. Example of track which critically engaged rape and domestic violence
• Fosbraey, Glenn; Puckey, Nicola (16 March 2021). Misogyny, Toxic Masculinity, and Heteronormativity in Post-2000 Popular Music. Springer Nature. ISBN 978-3-030-65189-3. Preview only but has a lot of content on IT.
• Utley, Ebony A. (11 June 2012). Rap and Religion: Understanding the Gangsta's God. ABC-CLIO. ISBN 978-0-313-37669-6. A couple of paragraphs
• Nava, Alejandro (22 August 2017). In Search of Soul: Hip-Hop, Literature, and Religion. Univ of California Press. ISBN 978-0-520-29354-0. Several paragraphs, maybe more.
• Vito, Christopher (8 February 2019). The Values of Independent Hip-Hop in the Post-Golden Era: Hip-Hop’s Rebels. Springer. ISBN 978-3-030-02481-9.
• Hodge, Daniel White (21 August 2010). The Soul of Hip Hop: Rims, Timbs and a Cultural Theology. InterVarsity Press. ISBN 978-0-8308-6128-6. Brief, but can't see everything
• BCBA-D, Ellie Kazemi, PhD; BCBA, Brian Rice, MA; BCBA-D, Peter Adzhyan, PsyD, LEP (28 November 2018). Fieldwork and Supervision for Behavior Analysts: A Handbook. Springer Publishing Company. ISBN 978-0-8261-3913-9.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link) Very random, but demonstrates how well-known the track is
• Kelly, Lauren Leigh (2013). "Hip-Hop Literature: The Politics, Poetics, and Power of Hip-Hop in the English Classroom". The English Journal. 102 (5): 51–56. ISSN 0013-8274. Similar to above
• Vito, Christopher (8 February 2019). The Values of Independent Hip-Hop in the Post-Golden Era: Hip-Hop’s Rebels. Springer. ISBN 978-3-030-02481-9. Another mention demonstrating wider cultural significance
• Finnis, Alex (19 November 2020). "Why the lyrics to 'Fairytale of New York' keep sparking the same debate every year". inews.co.uk. And some more

SmartSE (talk) 19:37, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

@MC-123: Nice work with the article! Some of the sources above might be helpful if you feel like expanding further. If not, I may get around to it at some point. SmartSE (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you @Smartse! I really appreciate you finding these sources that can be helpful in expanding the article. Unfortunately, I don't have access to most of these sources, so I may have to leave it to you if you'd like to add more to the article. I'm so sorry about that. I wish you the best in whatever you are planning to do with it MC-123 (talk) 23:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)