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Latest comment: 4 years ago by Aardwolf68 in topic So, how about Focus?
Archive 1

Drafts

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  Resolved

There are two:

Do we need either? ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:26, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

The first one is much more up to date, and as soon as the track list is announced (tomorrow night?) we should move all the content to this article. So, yes, we need the first one, but not the second one. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:28, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
Can we nominate it for deletion, or does the draft just expire at some point? ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:32, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
You can if you like, or you can just redirect it. I would wait a couple more days. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:35, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
I went ahead and redirected both. Feel free to nominate the pages for deletion if it makes a difference. ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:20, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Title track was Released on March 10

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According to this, this, this ("has debuted"), this, among others. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:05, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Image

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I think we need a higher quality image of each cover. 90.192.207.49 (talk) 14:43, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Album cover image

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Originally we had "Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman Album Cover.jpg". Then someone uploaded "Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman (Album).png", which was quickly replaced by the original. Now it has been yet again replaced by "Ariana Grande - Dangerous Woman (Official Album Cover).png", exactly the same size and format as the previous one.

I really wish editors would stop playing the ownership game with files. Widr (talk) 14:44, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Focus, the lead single

Latest comment: 8 years ago6 comments5 people in discussion

Since its release, multiple sources announced "Focus" as the lead single. This would be totally out of context is the song had been totally scrapped, but it is still somehow in the album (Japan). Here is the only source that noted "Focus" is still there, so is still referred as the single. Btw, this actually isn't the first time it happens. (CC:U990467) Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:23, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

I agree with you. "Focus" is still on the Japanese edition of the album. It should be included in the Dangerous Woman era on Ariana Grande discography. U990467 (talk) 09:32, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
This reliable source[1] explicitly states that "Dangerous Woman" is the first single (another way of saying lead single), and this reliable source[2] explicitly states that "Focus" is no longer the lead single and has been replaced by "Dangerous Woman". If "Focus" was still the lead single it would be on the Standard edition of the album, which it isn't. P.S there is already a discussion for this at Talk:Ariana Grande discography#Focus. 90.192.207.49 (talk) 14:29, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Focus is not the lead single from the album. If it was included in all editions of the album, you could consider it the lead single, but since it was only included in the Japanese edition, it is not the lead single. Just like Rihanna's Work being made the lead single when originally FourFiveSeconds was. If FourFiveSeconds were to be included on the standard album, it would still be the lead single. Dangerous Woman has been made the lead single and that is final. It is included on all versions of the album, not just one. To say it is the second single rather than the lead single is just nonsense. Especially with multiple media outlets and Ariana's team referring to it as the lead single. Kelzz cp (talk) 02:34, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Focus should be classified as a buzz track if at all. The source that says it's still the lead single is HollywoodLife, which is one of the worst sources as they post fake gossip all the time, while Newsweek is an established source. It is only a bonus track in one country, and since she's a US artist, if it's not on the US edition, it shouldn't be classified as a single. Focus is just like Iggy Azalea's "Azillion", which was released prior to her album Digital Distortion as a buzz track and will be on the album, but wasn't the lead single. If we called Focus the lead single, it would be just like if Rihanna released a Japanese edition of ANTI in Japan that included "FourFiveSeconds", "Bitch Better Have My Money", and "American Oxygen" and those were called the first three singles, when "Work" is clearly the first single. It is also not fair to her to classify it as an official single from the DW era because it is a completely different style and just doesn't do the album justice. In addition, she even said in interviews that it is a "transition song" form My Everything to Dangerous Woman, which shows that even Ariana doesn't think of it as a Dangerous Woman song. ThatsSoElliot (talk) 02:35, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
@ThatsSoElliot: Classifying it as a buzz single is unsourced and incorrect, Buzz singles/tracks are released for free and aren't usually sent to radio stations. "Focus" is not a buzz single, it is a single. Remove the paragraph saying it is a buzz single. 90.192.207.49 (talk) 13:51, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

It clearly isn't the lead single to the album. Its been removed from all editions except the Japanese edition as a bonus track and Ariana doesn't perform it anymore nor does she even reference it anymore. Bonus tracks aren't lead singles to an album, they are merely add ons to an existing album. Dangerous Woman is the lead single in all countries and should be reflected as so under the singles. Sources quoting Dangerous Woman as the lead single include Billboard,[1] International Business Times, [2] Hollywood Life [3] and Consequence of Sound to name a few sources.[4] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.173.248.153 (talk)

References

  1. ^ "Ariana Grande Drops New Single 'Dangerous Woman'". Billboard.
  2. ^ "Ariana Grande new album 2016: Dangerous Woman tracklist, collaborations and all we know so far". International Business Times UK. 18 April 2016.
  3. ^ Rogers, Kathleen Harper,Christopher; Rogers, Kathleen Harper, Christopher (31 March 2016). "Ariana Grande Drops Super Sexy New Music Video For 'Dangerous Woman' — Watch". Hollywood Life.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  4. ^ "Ariana Grande premieres new single "Dangerous Woman" — listen". Consequence of Sound. 11 March 2016.

"Dangerous Woman" Release Date

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The official release date was March 11, although iTunes says 23:00 March 10, it is wrong, iTunes always refreshes early, as shown by previous singles being listed as being released the day before at 23:00. As well as this, we can't go by sources working on any time zone with a larger UTC offset than EST (-5), as they'll be going on local time not the official release date. Also, the official Global Release Day for new music is Friday. 5.65.170.82 (talk) 15:04, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

@5.65.170.82:   Already done —Skyllfully (talk | contribs) 15:26, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Be Alright

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"Be Alright" should be listed in the singles section under a sub-heading of promotional singles, as is done with promotional singles from other albums. 90.208.254.174 (talk) 17:11, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

  Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:11, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

What now?

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What happens to "Draft" articles once the real article goes live? -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:57, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

They have been redirected, but I am also fine with them being deleted. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
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Edit request

Latest comment: 8 years ago18 comments13 people in discussion

Singles are not supposed to be listed under Release and promotion, it is supposed to be a separate section. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:A8FF:3C7F:6B79:74C4 (talk) 20:05, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Terra ❤ 05:58, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
No, on every other album page for every artist the singles have their own section, I do not need a source to prove Wikipedia practice. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:F914:DF25:93BD:B9D5 (talk) 12:58, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
  Not done: Point to a manual of style then. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 19:11, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
You know full well that all other album pages have them in their own section. Plus, singles don't fit with that section, it would be like putting the tracklist in the background section. I have not been provided with any good reason for the decline of my edit request. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:614A:C6D5:46C8:C716 (talk) 15:59, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Its not declined... --Terra ❤ 18:54, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Why is the fact that every other album page has the singles in their own section being ignored? 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:614A:C6D5:46C8:C716 (talk) 19:21, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Could you link some pages where the singles has their own section? --Terra ❤ 20:34, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
Please stop reactivating this request until you get others on board EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:21, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
@TerraCodes: I don't need to, you know full well I am right. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:E076:BE59:F765:949B (talk) 13:12, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
Dear anonymous contributor: If you cannot point to a guideline on the issue, then it becomes a question of what is better for the article, and as you see from the above, no one seems to agree with you about the structure of the article. See WP:CONSENSUS for more information about how we make editorial decisions here. Also, your poor spelling and grammar are not helping to persuade anyone that you might be correct. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
EVERY other album page has singles on their own section (Examples: Yours Truly, My Everything, Pink Friday, Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded, Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded – The Re-Up, The Pinkprint, The New Classic, Reclassified, Breakout, Can't Be Tamed, Bangerz, The Fame, Born This Way, Artpop, Cheek to Cheek, One of the Boys, Teenage Dream, Prism, Who You Are, Alive, Sweet Talker, Animal, Warrior). 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:E514:C19B:A54D:A8BE (talk) 10:47, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
So the user who made the edit can change the layout without any evidence or pointing to a manual of style or even providing an edit summary, but for me to have it changed back I have to provide references, page links and a manual of style! How is that fair? A user can make an major change to the layout of the page that goes against all others of that type without giving so much as an edit summary but I can't have it changed back without providing you with references, page links and a manual of style even though what I want is Wikipedia practice! And to top it all off, I still have not been provided with any reason for my edit request being denied! No album page has singles under Release and promotion, that section is for talk show appearances, tours, festivals etc. @Ssilvers: Consensus has no place in this issue, consensus does not override Wikipedia practice, especially considering that no reason or evidence has been provided. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:79BF:D964:A41B:6C12 (talk) 11:37, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps the 'singles' section you're talking about would be a better addition once another single is released from Dangerous Woman? No? Carbrera (talk) 13:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Why? There is a release history section with only one (incomplete) entry in the table. Two singles (including "Focus") and a promotional single have been released, there is information that warrants a sub-section (promotional single), so why is the entire thing merely a sub-section? As well as this, singles aren't solely promotional. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:79BF:D964:A41B:6C12 (talk) 17:08, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
  Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. clpo13(talk) 05:51, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
  Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:27, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
No, I don't need it. I am not accepting this, how come everything I propose is turned down even though I am right?! 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:815B:C9FD:4FBF:A6EF (talk) 16:38, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Tracklist

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  Resolved

Ariana Grande has revealed the tracklist of the 15-track album on Instagram. May someone please add it?

1. Moonlight 2. Dangerous Woman 3. Be Alright 4. Into You 5. Side to Side (feat, Nicki Minaj) 6. Let Me Love You (feat. Lil Wayne) 7. Greedy 8. Leave Me Lonely (feat. Macy Gray) 9. Everyday (feat. Future) 10. Sometimes 11. I Don't Care 12. Bad Decisions 13. Touch It 14. Knew Better / Forever Boy 15. Thinkin Bout You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmaan01 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit Request

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  Resolved

Someone has put that the standard edition is 15 tracks when it is actually 11. Also, there is a space before and after the "/" in "Knew Better / Forever Boy". 2.222.80.89 (talk) 08:51, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

@2.222.80.89: I can fix the track list, but the space before and after is stylistic only. Carbrera (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
  Done by another - Arjayay (talk) 16:12, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
It has been undone and now shows as incorrect again. As for the space before and after the "/", that is the way it is officially styled, so that's how we should style it. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:6944:A3D5:7661:6DFF (talk) 17:09, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
  Done by another - again - Arjayay (talk) 08:42, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 17 April 2016

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus is that the album is not demonstrably more notable than the song. I will also move A Dangerous Woman dab page to the simpler title Dangerous Woman per Dicklyon's suggestion.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:12, 25 April 2016 (UTC)


Dangerous Woman (album) → Dangerous Woman – Before the article was created under this title, it was created at Dangerous Woman. Also, there's nothing else called Dangerous Woman (other than the title song, but I'm pretty certain the album's gonna be bigger), just A Dangerous Woman. Unreal7 (talk) 17:19, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Dangerous Woman (which as stated above, redirects to the dab page A Dangerous Woman}
Dangerous Woman (album)
Dangerous Woman (song)
It is immediately clear which link to click, having one without a dab is actually more confusing - Arjayay (talk) 08:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
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Standard edition

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Why isn't the "standard" edition the US release? -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:16, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Because there can't be an edition with less tracks than the standard, and the US doesn't have a deluxe, it has one widely available edition plus a Target exclusive. The standard edition of an album is the edition with no bonus tracks and subsequently the fewest total tracks, the US edition has four bonus tracks. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:6944:A3D5:7661:6DFF (talk) 20:40, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit request

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  Resolved

"Thinkin Bout You" is listed as "Thinkin About You", which is incorrect and needs to be changed. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:6944:A3D5:7661:6DFF (talk) 20:42, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

  Done - by another - Arjayay (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit request

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The deluxe and US edition should be collapsed but it isn't. Also, the Target exclusive edition (17 tracks) needs to be added. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:10F8:D3F6:AFAA:A6C6 (talk) 15:09, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

  Partly done. Target edition added. But it doesn't make sense to hide tracks 12-15, sinced they are to be included in the main edition of the album in its biggest market, which is the US release. Grande's announcement of the album's tracklist included the 15 tracks. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:24, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
It's doesn't matter, it is not the standard edition and therefore must be collapsed. Also, the Target edition should be after the deluxe but before the Japanese edition as it is 17 tracks, it cannot go after as it doesn't contain the tracks in the editions prior to it. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:F583:6B17:A76D:F473 (talk) 21:30, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
I can't see a problem with the current solution, so will close this request - Arjayay (talk) 14:22, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
Only the standard edition can uncollapsed, bonus tracks cannot be uncollapsed, it is stupid. Nothing differentiates the US edition from any other one country edition. I am not accepting this. 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:815B:C9FD:4FBF:A6EF (talk) 16:36, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
  Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. — JJMC89 (T·C) 06:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
No. Why is everything I propose turned down even though I am right?! 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:70C0:EB15:A2A6:8A85 (talk) 16:02, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps you're not right. You certainly don't have consensus. Toddst1 (talk) 21:05, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
I am right!!!!!!!!! It is the deluxe edition / a one country exclusive editon, and only the Standard edition should be uncollapsed. Look at every other album page! This isn't fair! 2A02:C7D:2D07:1900:44F4:39EA:75AB:195E (talk) 15:31, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Edit request

Latest comment: 8 years ago6 comments3 people in discussion

"Focus" is not still an official single, so it should not be listed in the infobox. The first single is now "Dangerous Woman", listing "Focus" in the infobox as first is merely creating unnecessary confusion. Fan4Life (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Agreed, the same thing happened to Hilary Duff and "Chasing the Sun" and "All About You", just because the songs were available in some edition of the album, it doesn't mean that they are the lead-singles in an specific country, the lead-single was Sparks, and that's it. This is ludicrous. "Focus" was the tentative lead-single, the same happened to Gwen Stefani's "Baby Don't Lie" song. It should be reverted and changed. FanofPopMusic (talk) 02:44, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
It now says in the singles section "former international lead single", which isn't even a thing. On an unrelated note, someone has changed "Thinkin Bout You" to "Thinking Bout You", this is incorrect, only iTunes has the G on the end, all other sites do not and Ariana herself didn't. Fan4Life (talk) 07:43, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
There's been no objections. FanofPopMusic (autoconfirmed at least) should be able to make the suggested edits. Reopen the request if there are issues. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 17:01, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
In the singles section, it still refers to "Focus" as "the former international lead single", which isn't even a thing, it should say "former lead single". Secondly, in the singles section it says that "Focus" still serves as the lead single in Japan, that isn't how it works, the lead single is the lead single everywhere, so it needs to be removed. Thirdly, "Thinkin Bout You" is written as "Thinking Bout You" which is wrong, only iTunes has a G on the end, it is officially styled as "Thinkin Bout You" and all other sites follow the official styling, iTunes does not override official styling. Finally, someone has put "Focus" back in the infobox. Fan4Life (talk) 11:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
You will be autoconfirmed in about 12 hours, at which point you'll be able to make the edits. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 01:52, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Focus is NOT THE LEAD-SINGLE ANYMORE

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Hi guys, yesterday I edited on Dangerous Woman article and took away the information that "Focus" is the lead-single only in Japan, but that information is false and doesn't exist. The song was indeed the intended-lead single from the album last year, but Ariana Grande has decided to move the album's title from Moonlight to Dangerous Woman, and released "Dangerous Woman" as the proper lead-single. All sources that I cited claiming that "Dangerous Woman" is indeed the lead-single are all reliable: Billboard Magazine (that should have been enough), Idolator, Fuse (which confirmed that the song was the "buzz single") and many others, but users keep saying that "Focus" is indeed the lead-single only in Japan, but that's a FALSE INFORMATION. I propose this discussion so we can move forward and make a better article. FanofPopMusic (talk) 16:11, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2016

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Ariana had stated that "Visual 2" of her single Dangerous Woman would never be shared because it was scrapped. If it was to never be released, the Japanese version of the album would't have Dangerous Woman Visual 2 included on it. I don't think it would be included because the posted on social media "RIPV2". Jackkubinec (talk) 01:44, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. clpo13(talk) 18:22, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Trackslists are wrong

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Please correct it according to standard edition and the deluxe edition. Moreover, the trackslist of Japanese edition also needed to correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jermaineho (talk • contribs) 04:07, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Promotion

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I added Grande's performances on The Voice, Good Morning America, the Billboard Music Awards and the 2016 MTV Movie Awards. Did she do any other TV appearances? All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:31, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

She performed on Jimmy Kimmel Live! as well. In terms of concerts, she performed at San Diego's Channel 93.3 Summer Kick Off Concert as well as Wango Tango. — AYTK talk. 19:40, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I added Kimmel, but I'll leave it to others as to whether the un-televised concerts are important enough to mention. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:30, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Japanese cover

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I do not understand why the editors of this page remove the Japanese cover from this page, it's helpful more than destructive and doesn't harm anyone, considering the Ariana Grande album, Yours Truly has a Japanese cover and many other albums have alternate covers, why can't this album? -- SmithN41V (talk) 10:56, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Please refer to this and this nomination page as to why they are being removed, instead of edit-warring this in an attempt to own the page. It violates the non-free content criteria.livelikemusic talk! 00:14, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Japanese cover used image entire different from the standard and deluxe edition. Grande also didn't wear the rabbit headwear in the Japanese cover. Actually, it can NOT be completely described with only few words. Totally, it doesn't fail WP:NFCC. You can also refer to Delirium, Pure Heroine and Piece by Piece. U990467 (talk) 04:45, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 17 July 2016

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. EdJohnston (talk) 23:28, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

– Restarting RM after the album has been released for a period of time. The previous RM, which was started before the album was released, failed largely because at that time there was no evidence the album is more significant than the song. Long-term significance is not a concern because the album and its title track are the only topics named "Dangerous Woman". The album has received 4x the page views of the song and is therefore the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Dangerous Woman". For obvious reasons, Dangerous Woman (disambiguation), A Dangerous Woman, Dangerous Women, etc. should remain targeted to the disambiguation page after this move. SSTflyer 14:07, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Cartoon network freak (talk · contribs) 10:09, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Review coming soon. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 10:09, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Non-reviewer comment: This article should be quickly failed! It is nowhere to meet the GA criteria and also its current layout misses a lot of information about the album which should be in compliance with WP:MOSALBUM. Additionally, this is relatively a new album, so new informationf about scheduled singles, possible awards and certifications might come. — Tom(T2ME) 10:30, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
@Tomica: You should clearly point out which part of the article fails WP:MOSALBUM or misses any information instead of completely objecting. Also, this album isn't new because it has been three months since the album was released. How can you explain G.U.Y. became a GA just one month after its official single release.--U990467 (talk) 11:34, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
I don't need to point out anything specifically. Just look out of an example good article album and you will see that this is nothing near it. It needs a LOT more work in order to be a good article nominee. — Tom(T2ME) 12:11, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
@Tomica:/ @U990467: I'm going to provide a review for this GAN as soon as possible, and if it would be the case, I will give the nominator some time to expand the article, if possible. Best, Cartoon network freak (talk) 15:09, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi Cartoon network freak. The problem with this article is that it misses a lot of sections. And judging by the inexperience and stubbornes of the nominator, I don't see this article getting better in the time of the nomination. I suggest as I earlier said, withdrawal, a complete re-work on it and then again nominating it after it's completed. I don't see a problem with you taking its second nomination after its renominated :). — Tom(T2ME) 15:14, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
I'm really sorry but I have to agree with @Tomica: on this one. I'd argue that this album received even more coverage than Gwen Stefani's third studio album and check its respective article out. Carbrera (talk) 05:51, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Please quick fail this and @U990467: please check other GA album articles to understand why Tomica and others are saying so. This article grossly fails to be a GA and currently I would make it a passable C-class probably. —IB [ Poke ] 15:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

GAN review

@U990467: After a quick look over the article I see what the other users pointed out: there's not enough information about this article here, although its coverage on the internet is heavily by the fact that the artist is Queen Grande. For example, the commercial performance section could be expanded more, and info about the singles is very few. Also, I think you'll have to wait some time until the record gains all commercial attention (certifications...). PLEASE, don't be discouraged as I'm quick-failing this. If you need any help with fixing any kind of problem, please contact me, but as the article stands out now, this is unfortunately a quick fail ( ) Best and good luck, Cartoon network freak (talk) 15:30, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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Worldwide vs. Various

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Various is not an appropriate term to describe an album released across the world, as various implies select territories which is incorrect. Worldwide means across the world, not everywhere in the world, and since the album was released across the world, the term worldwide accurately describes its release. On a side note, I am not happy that I have had to create a discussion to keep the page as it was and to oppose an undiscussed change. Fan4Life (talk) 13:49, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

but you answered your own question - not everywhere in the world. If it is not everywhere in the world, then it isn't worldwide.
If you've been noticing, the words worldwide and universal have been slowly being removed and replaced. If it isn't worldwide, if it isn't everywhere in the universe, then those phrases are inappropriate. Kellymoat (talk) 14:01, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
The exact definition of worldwide is "extending or reaching throughout the world" not everywhere in the world. You are distorting the meaning of worldwide and expanding the meaning of various, which means several, various is not an appropriate term for almost all. For the last time, worldwide does not mean everywhere in the world, it simply means throughout the world, and since the it was released in many countries across the world, that equates to throughout, meaning that worldwide perfectly describes its release. Fan4Life (talk) 14:13, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Sources for 10 countries can hardly be considered "almost all". I don't see any at all from Africa (an entire continent). WP:WHATPLACE, "...prefer specific statements to general ones. It is better to use explicit descriptions, based on reliable sources, of when, where,..." Worldwide is a "general" statement. The ACTUAL 10 sources are "specific" statemants. The countries should be all listed individually in the table, instead of being relegated only to the references section. See HERE for an example.—Iknow23 (talk) 04:47, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Agreed, per points above! Plus, when Global Release Day was agreed upon, there were some territories that refused to agree to this decision. This, alone, proves that a "Worldwide" release does not exist.  And unless we can properly cite all releasing territories, which is highly unlikely, then I doubt "Worldwide" will ever be acceptable per the terms of WP:WHATPLACE. "Various" is the appropriate use of term. livelikemusic talk! 02:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
For the last time, worldwide doesn't mean everywhere in the world, it simply means throughout the world, which does not equate to every country. Stop ignoring the definition of worldwide and giving it a different definition to support the argument for various. Fan4Life (talk) 19:06, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Besides the dictionary, there is also the Wikipedia definition. Which, remember, this is Wikipedia. It is no different than, let's say, when a Twitter post isn't to be included in the article. It's not that the information is bogus, it is simply that Wikipedia has its own guidelines - and as I said in the first response up above, words like "worldwide", "universal", and "acclaim" are slowly being phased out.Kellymoat (talk) 19:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
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Greedy

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Why is "Greedy" listed as the fourth single and not "Everyday"? DatBoy101 (talk) 00:07, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 21 July 2018

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Moved as proposed. Primacy of the album has been established well enough in the discussion to support the consensus. bd2412 T 13:11, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

– Page view statistics show that searches for the album have consistently surpassed the title track and disambiguation page for the full 2+ years since release. WikiRedactor (talk) 13:57, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

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So, how about Focus?

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Okay, so "Focus" is NOT included as a single, because why? It wasn't included on the standard release of the album? That inofitself does NOT warrant it being kept out of the infoxbox. I've already started a discussion on the infobox's talk page about how useless that rule is, s if a song is released as a single and is included on any re-release or special edition of the album, then it SHOULD be included. Aardwolf68 (talk) 14:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

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