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Looks pretty self-written to me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.58.240.20 (talk) 05:58, 13 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Well, one look at the history page would dispel that perception.The2crowrox (talk) 17:09, 16 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
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Cracked contributions that are no longer accessible from his profile page

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I looked through some Way Back Machine archives of O'Brien's Cracked.com profile page and noticed that one of the first articles ever attributed to O'Brien on the site is no longer listed on his profile. The article is still online though. It's titled From Cromulent to Craptacular: The Top 12 Simpsons Created Words and was posted July 23, 2007. The article used to be accessible from O'Brien's profile but was apparently removed at some point. O'Brien is not the sole author credited for the article; he shares credit with someone named Mark Peters. Interestingly, Peters recieves an extra credit at the end of the article while O'Brien does not, so maybe Peters was more involved in the article than O'Brien was - and maybe that's why O'Brien's profile no longer lists the article. That said, other articles with multiple authors are still listed on O'Brien's profile, so ultimately, I have no idea why this particular article was removed.

I also noticed that O'Brien's profile used to list a couple of videos that have since disappeared: The Year in Douchebaggery, which was posted December 28, 2007, and The Week In Douchebaggery, Dan's Movie Reviews, and Other Fine Things: News on Cracked for 2/1/08. The pages for these videos are still online but aren't listed on O'Brien's profile anymore, and the videos themselves won't play for me. If anyone can get the videos to work or if anyone happens to have their own copies of the videos, it would be interesting to see them.

"The Week in Douchebaggery" was apparently a whole series of videos that Cracked produced back in the day. I'm not sure how many installments there were or how many O'Brien appeared in, but as far as I've noticed, the two that I mentioned were the only ones that used to be listed on O'Brien's profile. Currently, the pages for these two videos only credit Lex Friedman. But O'Brien and a few others used to be credited alongside Friedman, as can be seen with the Way Back Machine, here and here.

At one point, O'Brien's profile included a section for videos. The "Douchebaggery" videos weren't in that section though. They were listed on O'Brien's profile alongside his articles, back before there was ever a video section on his profile. See here. As a side note, the video section doesn't exist on his profile anymore, and I'm not sure if all of the videos that were once included there are still accessible elsewhere online or if any of them have since disappeared.

Finally, there are a couple live blogs that used to be listed on O'Brien's profile that no longer are. The first is Cracked.com Liveblogs the VP Debates LIVE!, which was posted on October 2, 2008 and can still be read. The second is Live Chat With Dan & Michael 2, which was posted on June 27, 2011 and is no longer viewable - at least not on my browser. The page for the chat is still online, but the chat itself is not, and unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the chat archived in The Way Back Machine (maybe someone else will have more luck in finding a way to read it, but I'm guessing that it's been lost to time). O'Brien's profile does still list two live chats with Swaim that were conducted right around the same time as this one, but those were separate live chats - and unfortunately, both of those seem to be lost as well.

It's possible that more articles and videos used to be listed on O'Brien's profile and no longer are, but the ones mentioned here are the only ones that I noticed, aside from the aforementioned video section which no longer exists - and I looked pretty thoroughly through quite a few archived iterations of his profile. I didn't come across O'Brien's famous "How to Kidnap the President's Daughter" article, but that one may have been taken down pretty quickly after it was first posted. I don't know how long it was online, but if only for a short while, then it may be difficult to track down an archived version of O'Brien's profile that still had it listed.

O'Brien may have been involved in other content for Cracked that was never accessible through his profile page. But I wanted to make a special note of the above-mentioned content for anyone who may be curious about what used to be listed on his profile that no longer is. Jpcase (talk) 01:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

P.S. While searching around with Way Back Machine, I also came across these pages: Cracked 64: The Top 8 of Everything of 2011 and Cracked 64: The Top 8 of Everything of 2012. Various Cracked contributors, including O'Brien, wrote content for those pages, and as far as I can tell, none of that content was ever listed on O'Brien's profile. I imagine that O'Brien likely contributed to other special group writing projects like those while he was at Cracked, and if anyone comes across additional content written for Cracked by O'Brien that isn't accessible through his Cracked profile page, please mention them here, as it would be interesting to see them! --Jpcase (talk) 02:14, 22 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Update I did a little more digging around and noticed that, at one point, the very bottom of O'Brien's profile page included a section called "Topics", which listed a number of articles that are no longer listed anywhere on his profile. The earliest archive showing the "Topics" section on his profile is from April 2011. At that time, four articles were listed in the section, although for some reason, two of them were not attributed to O'Brien. These two articles were then removed from O'Brien's page in August of that year, as can be seen here. It's unclear whether those articles were simply listed on O'Brien's page by mistake and removed once the mistake was noticed or if they were removed for some other reason. It doesn't seem that O'Brien was involved in writing those two articles, since he isn't credited, so I'm guessing that they were listed by mistake. But who knows?
It's interesting to note that O'Brien began publishing "Topics" articles long before the "Topics" section ever appeared on his profile, as the other two articles listed under that section in the April 2011 archive were published in January 2010 and April 2010 respectively.
The August 2011 archive shows several articles under the "Topics" section that had not been present in the April 2011 archive. What's kinda strange is that some of these newly added articles were published before January 2010, some were published after April 2010, and some were published in between those two dates. So the April 2011 archive showed a very incomplete listing of the "Topics" articles O'Brien had published up to that point. This gives even more reason to assume that the articles unattributed to O'Brien that were present in the April archive were included there by mistake, as it seems pretty clear that the "Topics" section was assembled incorrectly at first and then corrected by the time of the August archive.
The last archive showing the "Topics" section is from May 2013. It doesn't seem that the section was ever updated after August 2011 though. The final "Topics" article ever listed on O'Brien's profile was published on May 12, 2010; the earliest was published on July 9, 2009. Only seven articles total were ever listed in the section - not counting the two that seem to have been listed there by mistake.
I'm not sure if these seven articles represent all of the "Topics" articles that O'Brien ever wrote, but I'm guessing that they probably do. --Jpcase (talk) 00:59, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
P.S. I have no idea what "Topics" actually was, but I did discover that Cracked had its own central "Topics" page that was online from at least 2009 through late 2014. The earliest and latest archives don't display very well, so if anyone is interested in what the page typically looked like, this shows the page more clearly. The Way Back Machine does have archives of the page from long after 2014, but those later versions of the page seem to have served a different purpose.
It seems like a lot of different Cracked writers over the years contributed to "Topics", which I guess were just articles that for whatever reason were classified differently than other articles. Why they were classified that way though is anyone's guess. --Jpcase (talk) 01:30, 24 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Update: After a lot of digging around, I found these pages on the Way Back Machine [1] [2] [3], which explain what the "Topics" section was (the third page is just a slightly updated version of the second page). According to those pages, "Topics" "started as a sort of a Cracked Wikipedia project, but the idea [later] expanded to shorter, quick hitting pages." It seems that most of the "Topics" pages were written by Cracked readers rather than by typical Cracked writers, although I suppose the website's typical writers could contribute to "Topics" if they wanted to. I looked through archives of both Michael Swaim and Soren Bowie's Cracked profile pages and didn't see any Topics articles ever listed there. I guess it's possible that they also wrote Topics articles that for whatever reason were just never listed on their profiles - but it's also possible that O'Brien was one of the few Cracked columnists who ever wrote "Topics" articles. As explained in the third page that I linked to at the start of this update, Cracked ran a contest allowing one "Topics" article each week to be featured "right on the front page of Cracked next to DOB's column." So it's possible that O'Brien was more involved with "Topics" than other Cracked columnists and may have written a few of them early on simply to help the section get started.
One other update - both of the Douchebaggery videos that used to be listed on O'Brien's profile are actually still available on Youtube, here and here. So turns out those aren't lost after all. --Jpcase (talk) 22:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Update: The article Saying Goodbye To Jack O'Brien, Cracked's Cool Dad (June 05, 2017) includes a section by O'Brien, alongside sections by other Cracked regulars, but is simply credited to "Cracked staff" and doesn't appear on O'Brien's profile. There's actually an entire profile page for articles attributed to Cracked staff, which can be seen here. I haven't looked through each of those articles to see which of them O'Brien may have contributed to, but I assume he likely contributed to at least some of them, maybe a lot of them. --Jpcase (talk) 22:50, 26 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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