Talk:Daniele De Rossi
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Place of birth?
editThe article states Rome, but AP news reports call him New Jersey, USA born... [1]
- No that's Rossi, not De Rossi chandler 13:46, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
World Cup 2010
editDurring this game De Rossi was also accused of diving [2].
It seems quite clearly the case that there is at least significant controversy over De Rossi's propensity for diving. Perhaps a section with footnotes linking to youtube videos of the alleged incidents would be helpful, and allow people to make up their own minds? As long as it's done in a balanced manner, for example, including his explanation or denial, I can't see that there's any good reason for excluding it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.238.240.212 (talk) 07:00, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
this statement should not be deleted as it's true. Referance and all —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.208.243.36 (talk) 15:31, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Should we also mention another one of his dives was awarded the penalty that caused Italy to draw even with New Zealand? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pepetto (talk • contribs) 00:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
This guy is a blatant diver and it is worthy to be put on his page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.209.133.147 (talk) 01:58, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Some references, should anyone want to put them together, on the 'diving incident' against New Zealand:
- From Stuff.co.nz: All Whites captain Ryan Nelsen has called for Fifa to act against the "faking and conning" of referees after a "laughing" Italian midfielder Daniele de Rossi dived to earn a face-saving penalty for the world champions... Ryan Nelsen said he spoke with the midfielder just before the penalty was being taken "he was laughing, he couldn't believe he was given it... he was laughing." Asked by Stuff if he dived, De Rossi demurred, claiming: "You say that, I deny it". When Stuff made the same inquiry of Lippi, he ignored the question completely ...
- From BBC: "the Roma midfielder seemed to tumble easily."
Perhaps the incident should be included in the article, with both accusations and denials? And some references from the Italian-language media. Surely someone here must speak Italian... -Crabbylucy (talk) 03:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
- He was not diving it was a sniper! [3] --92.230.90.68 (talk) 10:19, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Red Card
editDo we really need to add every red card he earns? --Panairjdde 01:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hopefully he doesn't earn that many! Obviously, this one was in a critical game.
Subsequent events will determine just how important it was- I would recommend leaving it in for now, pending any media reaction in Italy and the team's future progress in the tournament.Badgerpatrol 01:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)- This is an enciclopedy, not a cristal ball. If the red card will earn any importance (weighted with the high importance a WC has), we will always have time to add it. For the time being, it is a useless information, and furthermore McBride is still alive and well, luckyly.
- I do not support this over-covering current events, filling with details that are meaningless. It is very probable, even if De Rossi gets a six-match-stop, that in a five years span this will be forgotten, it is just a red card, after all.
- And yes, he got other reds, if I remember well.--Panairjdde 01:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- It indeed isn't a crystal ball, and therefore no predictions are made in the De Rossi article- it is simply a statement of fact. If De Rossi has any global fame, it is because of this. One does not have to have a crystal ball to work out that this story already has been touted extensively (e.g. [4]) and that it will appear in tomorrow's Italian press, who are I believe not renowned for being shrinking violets. Anyone looking for De Rossi in this encyclopaedia will be expecting to find this; a sending off of any international footballer (in a World Cup match especially) is blatantly notable enough to include in their biography. And if Italy go out or falter, it is very unlikely to be forgotten- not least because it was a horrible challenge. See here for a broadly analogous example. Badgerpatrol 01:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- You wrote:
- "Subsequent events will determine just how important it was- I would recommend leaving it in for now, pending any media reaction in Italy and the team's future progress in the tournament."
- This means that the red card is un-encyclopedic per se; Do you think it will become important if Italian media will publish? A red card in a major competition is not always an important fact. Tomáš Ujfaluši, Mateja Kežman, and André Macanga have no reference to their red cards, and I'm sure Czech, Serbian, and Angolan media did write something! Even Pablo Mastroeni, a straight red card in the same match, has no reference to this disciplinary punishment in his page.
- --Panairjdde 01:50, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- I have stricken my previous edit to avoid confusion (I thought I already had- my previous edit was lost due to an edit conflict- mea culpa)- it was meant to indicate that events are plastic and the exact ramifications have yet to play out. Nontheless, a red card in any World Cup match is inherently notable. I recommend that you boldy update the other articles to which you refer. Badgerpatrol 02:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- You wrote:
- It indeed isn't a crystal ball, and therefore no predictions are made in the De Rossi article- it is simply a statement of fact. If De Rossi has any global fame, it is because of this. One does not have to have a crystal ball to work out that this story already has been touted extensively (e.g. [4]) and that it will appear in tomorrow's Italian press, who are I believe not renowned for being shrinking violets. Anyone looking for De Rossi in this encyclopaedia will be expecting to find this; a sending off of any international footballer (in a World Cup match especially) is blatantly notable enough to include in their biography. And if Italy go out or falter, it is very unlikely to be forgotten- not least because it was a horrible challenge. See here for a broadly analogous example. Badgerpatrol 01:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
YES! This RED CARD NEEDS TO BE NOTED! Does anyone care that it was a red card? No. But it was the most repugnant display of cheap violence I have ever seen in FIFA! This was a particularly blatent and bloody violation. This cretin should be banned from FIFA. Nobody cares about De Rossi- he will be remembered FOREVER as the cheap, unskilled Italian who turned a world cup match into a greasy knife fight.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.148.33.166 (talk • contribs) 05:51, June 18, 2006 (UTC)
- Not sure if I like the tone of that. Please try and put across your point in a dispassionate way- and sign your posts. Badgerpatrol 11:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Yes from me too. The red card was a significant, dramatic, well-publicised event in that game and does need to be noted (though in a straightforward, unemotional manner). To deliberately not include it would be NPOV - especially since the article notes an example of De Rossi's fair play in refusing to allow a hand goal to stand. If we cut the red card, then we need to cut that hand goal reference too! Instead, we should leave BOTH references - one is negative, one is positive, both are significant and both contribute to an accurate profile of the player. Being "encyclopedic" means being NPOV, verifying facts etc etc, it doesn't mean only including the bare minimum of information. If it did, Wikipedia would be half the size it currently is and consist of not much more than a dull list of dates and statistics. Cheers.
- Agreed- I was probably overly emotional. It is frustrating to see this type of poor sportsmaship continue from the infamous Italian team. (Recall the 2004 spitting in the Denmark player's face incident? http://acmilanvn.com/anh/totti_spit3.jpg) As an aside, wouldn't you apologise and pretend to be sorry if you were at risk of being kicked out of the World Cup, or worse? Ingenuine crocodile tears. (http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-cro1.htm in case you need an explanation of crocodile tears)
- The Italians aren't infamous for poor sportsmanship, or at least not to my knowledge. I recall various incidents of poor unsportsmanlike conduct and violent play, from a variety of teams (Argentina, England, Germany, Holland, Uruguay- the list is almost endless)- not just Italy. De Rossi's challenge was a very, very bad one, but that is all. I would indeed probably apologise if I was in danger of getting kicked out of the World Cup- but then again, I would also apologise because I was a good sportsman who was concerned for his opponent. Who knows which applies to De Rossi. We should bear in mind that he is quite unlikely to play again in the tournament anyway; I suspect FIFA will impose a three match ban. Anyway, this article should continue to represent a dispassionate NPOV. Badgerpatrol 18:16, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- And at any rate, apologizing isn't going to do anything about his being suspended for the next game, which is the game in which Italy risks being kicked out of the Cup. Either way, Italy must face elimination without De Rossi. TheProject 18:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
This is an encyclopedia, not a chat room, opinions of De Rossi's behavior are completely irrelevant.
I think we should remove the part comparing him to Roy Keane, and replace it with Steven Gerrard as noted by most pundits
Arsenal Rumours
editDe Rossi has not signed for Arsenal, and doesn't look like he is close to either. It appears as if this page is merely getting vandalised just for a few people to start some rumours. (AdamD123 (talk) 02:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC))
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Boca title?
editCopied from Vaselineeeeeeee's talk page: Hi. The user adding the Boca Juniors title to Daniele De Rossi's page has cited [5] at several projects, but I think we can agree this is not an official source and seems like his club is saying this as a sort of unofficial "tribute" to him. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 03:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Hi. Of course I agree about that. --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- @L'Eremita: What do you think about this source [6]? Also @Messirulez: for input. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 15:54, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
This is a tricky one...at first, I would be inclined to say no, as he retired in January 2020, so that was during the transfer window, and usually if a player leaves in January and the team win the league title later that year, then they don't receive a medal (an exception was Ronaldinho with Milan in 2010–11). However, this article from La Repubblica seems to suggest that the Argentine press have confirmed that he did win the league title, which leads me to believe that he should in fact be credited with it, and it is a better source in my opinion. I hope that helps! Best regards, Messirulez (talk) 16:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Here is the original article from Olé as well! Best, Messirulez (talk) 16:09, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- The football-italia.net source and the Italian-language sources, such as Repubblica.it, ANSA.it and Goal.com/it, only mention an implicit statement by the Argentine newspaper Olé. I continue to think it's just a "tribute" to him despite the retirement, there are no relevant sources proving De Rossi won the title. --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 16:10, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- @L'Eremita: I have added the link to the original article by Olé above if that helps, and I speak Spanish as well as Italian and English, so I can verify that the translations in Football Italia and La Repubblica accurate. Best, Messirulez (talk) 16:20, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- I've read that, it says: Jugó cinco partidos y, aunque ya no esté, se consagró con ¡un 100 por ciento! en los quites. (He played five games and, although he is gone, he consecrated with 100 percent!) IMHO, the statement is not very clear and the article is not a reliable source, we need an official Argentine reference (for example, an AFA statement). --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 16:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Messirulez: So is having five appearances the cut off for the league trophy in Argentina? If that really is the case, then perhaps De Rossi would receive a medal despite retiring - seems conceptually strange, however. But yes, a source from the club or the league seems like the only option to cement this. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 16:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Vaselineeeeeeee: I know that it is the case in some countries, like England as well; you need a minimum of five appearances in order to win a Premier League medal (it used to be ten). Best, Messirulez (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- There have been instances of players being awarded a medal by a club after departing. This is usually when the club is handed the medals at the end of the year they are free to give them out as they see fit to any qualifying player. However, being handed a medal and being part of a winning squad etc is different again. We have had a few instances in the past where a player who played in the Semi Final of a match but missed the final of a Cup has been handed a medal post-game (often club Captain) even if not on the pitch at all. However many cup competitions now hand out a quota of medals. It's unclear who then would be handed them, particularly when clubs have played youth squads and fringe players for 4 or 5 matches, with only the senior squad in a later round. There is no real answer. Some people have tried to use OR by looking at team photos etc, others found lists on official club sites, but there isn't anything like a published list by the FA or the Club of "official" winners in any case that I have seen. Koncorde (talk) 16:50, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- A lot of Italian websites are reporting him to have won the title. See ANSA.it, Corriere dello Sport, Goal.com/it, Football-Italia (all reliable sources). Nehme1499 (talk) 17:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- The Italian websites are just quoting a single article by the Argentine newspaper Olé. We need an official statement by the football league. Usually, when a player has left a club before the end of a winning season, he's not part of the winning squad. If there are no official sources about it, I think De Rossi can't be considered a winner of the league. --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 17:38, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- A lot of Italian websites are reporting him to have won the title. See ANSA.it, Corriere dello Sport, Goal.com/it, Football-Italia (all reliable sources). Nehme1499 (talk) 17:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- There have been instances of players being awarded a medal by a club after departing. This is usually when the club is handed the medals at the end of the year they are free to give them out as they see fit to any qualifying player. However, being handed a medal and being part of a winning squad etc is different again. We have had a few instances in the past where a player who played in the Semi Final of a match but missed the final of a Cup has been handed a medal post-game (often club Captain) even if not on the pitch at all. However many cup competitions now hand out a quota of medals. It's unclear who then would be handed them, particularly when clubs have played youth squads and fringe players for 4 or 5 matches, with only the senior squad in a later round. There is no real answer. Some people have tried to use OR by looking at team photos etc, others found lists on official club sites, but there isn't anything like a published list by the FA or the Club of "official" winners in any case that I have seen. Koncorde (talk) 16:50, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Vaselineeeeeeee: I know that it is the case in some countries, like England as well; you need a minimum of five appearances in order to win a Premier League medal (it used to be ten). Best, Messirulez (talk) 16:36, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Messirulez: So is having five appearances the cut off for the league trophy in Argentina? If that really is the case, then perhaps De Rossi would receive a medal despite retiring - seems conceptually strange, however. But yes, a source from the club or the league seems like the only option to cement this. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 16:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- I've read that, it says: Jugó cinco partidos y, aunque ya no esté, se consagró con ¡un 100 por ciento! en los quites. (He played five games and, although he is gone, he consecrated with 100 percent!) IMHO, the statement is not very clear and the article is not a reliable source, we need an official Argentine reference (for example, an AFA statement). --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 16:32, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- @L'Eremita: I have added the link to the original article by Olé above if that helps, and I speak Spanish as well as Italian and English, so I can verify that the translations in Football Italia and La Repubblica accurate. Best, Messirulez (talk) 16:20, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- The football-italia.net source and the Italian-language sources, such as Repubblica.it, ANSA.it and Goal.com/it, only mention an implicit statement by the Argentine newspaper Olé. I continue to think it's just a "tribute" to him despite the retirement, there are no relevant sources proving De Rossi won the title. --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 16:10, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
It's not that black and white. Often times a player who has played the first half of a competition, but then moved to another team for the second half (be it on loan or permanently), is awarded the title. I (rightly) remember about Coutinho being able to win the Champions League in 2017-18 had Liverpool won it, when he moved to Barca during the winter. Bleacher Report also talks about a five-game-cutoff in this case. It's also stated that 40 medals are produced for the winners (something that also happened with Al Ahed FC, who won the AFC Cup, and were given 42 medals. See the AFC competition regulation (page 64)). Nehme1499 (talk) 18:00, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Like Koncorde said, being handed a medal and being part of a winning squad are two different things: for example, Nikola Kalinić is a 2018 World Cup runner-up, despite he refused the silver medal. Currently, we don't know if De Rossi can be officially considered a league winner; when in doubt, I think we can't add the honour in his page. --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 18:15, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- I think Wikipedia should report what's being reported. If it's accurate or not according to me or you it's another story. But if tens of news articles, as well as thousands of Boca fans, are claiming that De Rossi has won the title, then we should write that. Nehme1499 (talk) 18:21, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- The sources must be reliable and relevant: I respect Boca fans' opinion, but that is not relevant, and IMHO a single Argentine news article quoted by other websites is not enough reliable. --L'Eremita (Il Romitorio) 18:40, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- I agree - the websites themselves may be reliable, but the rest of the websites piggybacking off of that one initial Spanish article may fall under the first category of WP:NOTNEWS. We shouldn't be reporting potentially false information based off of an early news report. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 18:49, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- I think Wikipedia should report what's being reported. If it's accurate or not according to me or you it's another story. But if tens of news articles, as well as thousands of Boca fans, are claiming that De Rossi has won the title, then we should write that. Nehme1499 (talk) 18:21, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
remembering that Daniele is considered the Argentine soccer champion because the Argentine championship 2019/2020 because he participated in the first phase of the Argentine championship and you retired just before the championship ended and as the rule says from the moment the player enters the field for one team at least one game he is considered the champion of the championship in question he played the five games so even though he retired two months after the championship is over it does not change the legitimacy of the title he won Robertohhuhhh (talk) 03:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
These rare champions Since Mauro Zárate, who got injured and played a little and nothing in the final stretch of the Superliga up to De Rossi and Alfaro himself, all of whom summed up their title in their curriculum. Hasta Goltz, who was facing the path ... Robertohhuhhh (talk) 03:58, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Those rare champions From Mauro Zárate, who was injured and played little and nothing in the final stretch of the Super League, to De Rossi and Alfaro himself, all of whom added a title to their CV. Even Goltz, who was from the opposite sidewalk ... Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:00, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
here is an excerpt from the report on the most trusted Argentine football site Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Adriano Del Monte @adriandelmonte · 9 de mar Medalha de primeiro lugar Daniele De Rossi played enough minutes to pick up a winner’s medal with Boca Juniors, his first after 8 second-place finishes with Roma.
One of the all-time greats, deservedly ends his career as a champion
Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:06, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
ESPN FC @ESPNFC · 9 de mar Daniele De Rossi has finally won a league title after 20 years!
He picked up eight runner-up medals with Roma but played enough minutes to earn a winners medal with Boca Juniors Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:07, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Republic @republic De Rossi wins league title after 20 years as Boca Juniors win Primera Division #DeRossi #BocaJuniors Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:09, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
any questions you have I suggest you search the Argentine and Italian websites because they are the same as those twitter publications I copied and pasted there you think ESPN is an unreliable site you think they would do this information on Twitter if there was no doubt that you have search on Twitter these two that I put there are 100% true if you don't have twitter I do the account then look at the site olé. Clarin. tyc sporte are the most famous and most trusted in Argentina Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:17, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Los 'exiliados'
Histórica remontada de Boca: Alfaro, Mac Allister y De Rossi, los campeones a la distancia Hubo fiesta en la Bombonera, pero muchos festejaron el título desde sus casas. Una rareza via (clarin) Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:21, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Daniele De Rossicosechó una nueva estrella ya retirado. El italiano, que vino a Argentina para darse el gusto de jugar con la azul y oro, no tuvo dentro de la cancha el desempeño esperado, pero generó una locura por parte del hincha de Boca por esa voluntad de cruzar el charco y cumplir su sueño (via diário clarin Argentina) Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
La versión digital del periódico Clarin.com es el tercer periódico digital en español más consultado del mundo con 8 179 000 de usuarios únicos (septiembre de 2016).[1] En mayo de 2019, Clarín marcó el récord de audiencia en medios digitales en la Argentina con 19 564 000 visitantes únicos, según el registro de Comscore.[2]
(((The digital version of the Clarin.com newspaper is the third most consulted Spanish-language digital newspaper in the world with 8,179,000 unique users (September 2016). [1] In May 2019, Clarín set the record for audience in digital media in Argentina with 19,564,000 unique visitors, according to the Comscore registry. [2])))))))now you tell me the country's newspaper we are not the most famous there and one of the most famous in the world of news that they also knew And you still have some questions Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:26, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
The publication was launched on May 23, 1996, by the Clarín Group. It has since become the most important sports publication in Argentina, especially since the closing of El Gráfico in 2002 (later reopened as a monthly magazine).[1] Shortly after its establishment, the publication received three awards from the Society for News Design (1997).[2]
Olé is mainly focused on football, but covers most sports events related to Argentina, as well as the most important international sport news. Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
now i wonder what makes you suspicious of the three biggest sites in argentina clarin olé tyc esports championship took place in argentina and how argentinian site would inform a false opinion of that do me a favor my dear Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:40, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
and maybe you’re confusing some rules because you’re used to the european championship and the boss of the european league is uefa and here in america and the boss is conmebol Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
as i told you and you know a lot about european championships is a bit unformed about argentinian and south american championships for example the relegation in argentina happens when when you add three championships for three years in a row there is an average then the last two are demoted and the two that I stay above play a rescue play totally different from the others in other countries you don’t know the rules of the Argentine championship example of a player in the mouth even though he played 3 minutes and fights with the trap he’s a walk advisor Robertohhuhhh (talk) 04:57, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
and if a person didn’t receive the medal in their hands, it doesn’t mean no because it’s a symbol. when I have the opportunity after finishing this coronavirus ipedemia, God bless us all, I’ll take a picture post on the internet showing his name there on the board of champions at the boca museum the same person is always the person who participated in the second part of the championship, he shouldn't also without considering the champion, he is no longer himself and considered the champion as the person who participated in the first part of the championship, which is far away as a person who makes the second to second part of the championship can be considered the champion and the first part that gave blood and played cannot be considered (this is the same thing as a bricklayer making a house he does half and then another comes and ends I mean that he has no part in that glory of the house that you finished it doesn’t mean that the glory is only for everyone who finished and deserves recognition) Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:09, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
and i'm going to make it clear here this does not mean i want to give him a title not only am i doing this to show that you are uninformed Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
but what I find most funny is that you are suspicious of the Argentine website, the biggest in the country who know all the rules of the championship Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:16, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
e depois desconfiado site ESPN site gigante em todo mundo kkkkkkkkkkkk Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:17, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
https://m.facebook.com/ESPNFC/posts/10157649907284821 Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
and then suspicious ESPN site giant site worldwide kkkkkkkkkkkk Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
https://www.football-italia.net/150988/de-rossi-won-league-boca Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
http://www.fichajes.net/noticias/jugadores-boca-no-recuerdas-ganaron-superliga-de-rossi-goltz-mac-allister-zarate-weigandt-20200308.html Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:23, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
http://lanumero12.com.ar/2020/03/08/no-estuvieron-ayer-pero-ellos-tambien-son-campeones/amp/ Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:26, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
www.google.com/amp/s/www.ilmessaggero.it/AMP/sport/primo_scudetto_de_rossi_boca_juniors-5099011.html Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
https://www.foxsports.it/amp/2020/03/09/boca-juniors-campione-de-rossi-vince-primo-scudetto/ Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:33, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
El uno por uno del Boca campeón de la Superliga 2019/2020: del blindaje en el fondo y la solidez al resurgimiento de Tevez y los velocistas - Infobae - https://www.infobae.com/deportes-2/2020/03/08/el-uno-por-uno-del-boca-campeon-de-la-superliga-20192020-del-blindaje-en-el-fondo-y-la-solidez-al-resurgimiento-de-tevez-y-los-velocistas/ Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:41, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
https://www.ole.com.ar/boca-juniors/campeones-raros-boca-alfaro-rossi_0_WxnCeraa.html Robertohhuhhh (talk) 05:43, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
BOCA
De Rossi, muy picante con “las gallinas” Un periodista italiano reveló el mensaje que recibió de Daniele no bien Boca se consagró campeón y le arrebató el título a River. ¡Escuchá el audio acá! El italiano De Rossi estuvo muy picante con River en una charla con un amigo. El italiano De Rossi estuvo muy picante con River en una charla con un amigo.
Ramiro Scandolo RAMIRO SCANDOLO
27/03/2020 - 10:06 Olé Equipos Boca Daniele De Rossi no pudo celebrar el campeonato como hubiera querido. Primero, no pudo seguir este año en Boca por problemas familiares que en enero lo llevaron a anunciar su salida. Y segundo, la crisis que atraviesa Italia con el brote de coronavirus no le permitió esbozar ninguna sonrisa, por más que ese sábado se enteró enseguida de la vuelta olímpica de sus ex compañeros. Así y todo, según contó el periodista italiano Roberto Colombo, que es amigo del ex mediocampista y siguió de cerca los seis meses en el Xeneize, Lele le mandó un mensaje picante no bien terminó el partido ante Gimnasia La Plata. ¿Que decía?
"El primer mensaje que me llegó cuando salimos campeones fue de uno que es campeón él también, que jugó solamente seis meses y es Daniele De Rossi. Estaba refeliz", contó Colombo en ConectadosXBoca, el programa que sale todos los días a las 22 por Cadena Xeneize. Y enseguida, a la pregunta qué le había dicho su amigo sobre el campeonato, agregó: "¿Qué hora es en Argentina? ¿Se puede hablar ya con palabras... 'Qué linda cosa, nos c... a las gallinas al final'. Eso me dijo".
Apenas se dio cuenta de lo que había revelado, Colombo dijo al programa que era "una cosa entre nosotros", aunque ya había salido al aire y todos agarraron enseguida la frase. "Es el título de la nota", le dijo uno de los periodistas de ConectadosXBoca. Y el italiano contó cómo está Lele: "Quiere mucho a Boca, quiere mucho a los Bosteros, quiere mucho a la Argentina, la familia la vivió bien esta aventura y él va a ser un Bostero más hasta su último día".
Trivia Olé: ¿Cuánto sabés de Boca? MIRÁ TAMBIÉN Trivia Olé: ¿Cuánto sabés de Boca? El Pipa te cocina MIRÁ TAMBIÉN El Pipa te cocina Trueno: Azul y Oro y un tema bien Bostero MIRÁ TAMBIÉN Trueno: Azul y Oro y un tema bien Bostero En estos días, desde que Boca se consagró, De Rossi recibió muchos llamados de la prensa argentina, pero ofreció disculpas porque no considera justo hablar de fútbol cuando en su país la están pasando realmente mal con alrededor de 80.000 infectados y más de 8.000 muertes. Aunque a todos aclaró, tal como contó Colombo, que a Boca lo lleva en el corazón y que está muy agradecido por lo que vivió en la Argentina.
Una de las pocas apariciones públicas fue hace varias semanas para acudir al hospital San Camilo de Roma para donar sangre y ayudar a concientizar a la gente que lo haga sin miedo. "Hay una gran escasez de sangre en el Lazio. Hay seguridad y médicos equipados. La gente ha dejado de donar sangre por miedo, pero hay estructuras destinadas a acoger al donantes. Mi mensaje es: no tengan miedo, es un gesto de altruismo que debe continuar", dijo en un video publicado por la web de la Región de Lazio.
De Rossi estuvo en Boca en el segundo semestre del 2019, después de alejarse de la Roma, el club de toda su vida. Entre Superliga, Copa Argentina y Copa Libertadores, sumó siete partidos con un gol. Pero a comienzos de 2020 pegó la vuelta para su país. Y meses después, se consagró campeón a la distancia...
¿Si va a volver a la Argentina una vez que pase todo? "No sé si va a ir a buscar la medalla, pero hemos charlado después de cubrir a él por seis meses, porque ahora tengo una lista amistad, y tenemos que volver allá para comer asado, vacío, chinchu y milanga", completó Colombo, con una sonrisa.
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Burdisso "Contributo De Rossi a scudetto del Boca e' stato grandissimo" Burdisso 'Contributo De Rossi a scudetto del Boca e' stato grandissimo'
di italpress
Il ds del club argentino: "Scelta di Daniele e' stata calcistica" ROMA (ITALPRESS) - "La scelta di Daniele e' stata calcistica, ho pensato a migliorare la squadra dove c'era bisogno. E il tempo mi ha dato ragione: venti giorni fa il Boca ha vinto lo scudetto e il contributo di Daniele, in esperienza, entusiasmo e leaderhsip, e' stato grandissimo". Il direttore sportivo del Boca Juniors, Nicolas Burdisso, rivendica la scelta di aver portato alla 'Bombonera' Daniele De Rossi, l'ex capitano della Roma e campione del mondo a Germania 2006 con la Nazionale di Lippi. "I problemi fisici li avevo messi in conto ma per noi argentini e' stato bellissimo - spiega a Skysport24 il 38enne ex difensore di Inter, Roma, Genoa e Torino - Ci ha fatto capire di avere un campionato dove portare grandi campioni. Daniele fara' una grande carriera fuori dal campo". Spiegato che in Argentina la pandemia di Covid-19 ha creato al momento meno problemi rispetto all'Italia, Burdisso si augura che la 'sua' Inter arrivi presto a vincere di nuovo il titolo: "Seguo Conte da tantissimo tempo, sono legato all'Inter ma non e' mai semplice costruire una squadra quasi da zero come ha fatto il club nerazzurro in estate. All'Inter si chiede sempre lo scudetto ma lo societa' ha le idee chiare e, con questi investimenti, ogni anno sara' sempre piu' vicino". (ITALPRESS). mc/red 27-Mar-20 15:19
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© Tiscali Italia S.p.A. 2020 P.IVA 02508100928 186.232.93.207 (talk) 16:08, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
https://sport.tiscali.it/news/articoli/burdisso-contributo-de-rossi-scudetto-boca-stato-grandissimo-00001/ Robertohhuhhh (talk) 16:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
https://futebolatino.lance.com.br/ Robertohhuhhh (talk) 16:11, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
https://futebolatino.lance.com.br/de-rossi-mandou-mensagem-provocativa-a-jornalista-apos-titulo-do-boca-juniors/ Robertohhuhhh (talk) 16:12, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
now i want to see what doubt he will have more he made it very clear that he can get the medal yes the coronavirus and im impeccable to return to argentine and that he was very happy with the title he won Robertohhuhhh (talk) 16:16, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: Would full protection be warranted given a consensus hasn't been reached and this user bludgeoning the talk and continuing to add? Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 16:26, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- A block looks like a better solution to me.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Ymblanter: True - that may be the only longer term option given this is likely the same user who has been hopping around on various IPs. I leave it to your good judgement. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 17:27, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- A block looks like a better solution to me.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:19, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
the guy by chance you saw all the things i wrote there, you can interrupt whatever you want, you piggyback from what all the teachers say they don't trust Wikipedia is really an unreliable site Robertohhuhhh (talk) 17:10, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
It’s not relevant wether De Rossi left or stood, he was part of the team and played 4 matches. He’s champion like coach Gustavor Alfaro who resigned in the middle of the campaign. Gonzaloges (talk) 00:51, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
. Gonzaloges I agree with you only that these people who do not understand football rules Are difficult to handle
Marciobrasil2010 (talk) 01:17, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure if I'm too late for this, but being a champion and receiving a medal are two different things. Even if he played just one minute in the championship, he is considered a champion, with or without receiving a medal. Ezio's Assassin (talk) 18:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Lead
editIn the lead De Rossi is defined as a defensive midfielder. This became true only in the end of his career, I think he should be defined just as a midfielder. Especially because later on in the article it is stated that he is defined as a complete midfielder, based on his technical skills. Panicovero (talk) 16:39, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
EURO 2020 Winner?
editDe Rossi was part of Roberto Mancini's 2020 coaching staff. Should he be credited with it as a trophy in his medal count? 2600:4040:254D:8000:9129:4BE3:D8DA:1FDF (talk) 00:07, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- in the infobox to be clear 2600:4040:254D:8000:9129:4BE3:D8DA:1FDF (talk) 00:07, 18 February 2024 (UTC)