Talk:Data integrity

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i guess that this article is still a really ugly jumble of aspects. cleanup by experts urgently requested!! -- Kku 09:19, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I would like to see a more rounded discussion of the topic -- data integrity in messages (email or system communications), data integrity in files, data integrity as it goes beyond "are all the bits there" into data meaning (is this still data integrity?), and beyond digital data even into other forms of data. metaJohnG (talk) 18:09, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

I changed the definition to reflect the above perspective, and added a reference. (For the record, I don't think this should be changed to database integrity.) metaJohnG (talk) 01:38, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Having stumbled across the wikipedia term "information assurance", we have the following synopsis of WIkipedia terms:

• data integrity: discusses the topic entirely from a database-centric view (consistent with dominant web treatment and I'm sure dominant use of the term in scholarly papers (there being more of those about databases than about data in general)
• database integrity: seems properly focused, should be more narrow than the data integrity article, IMHO (but much of data integrity's content could migrate there)
• information integrity: I'd consider this a synonym of data integrity as I think data integrity should be defined
• information assurance: includes reference to the concept of information integrity as the broader concept (to which I think data integrity should refer)

I know a lot about implementing data system and data integrity in that sense, but very little about scholarly descriptions of data integrity. And I don't know how to correctly modify wikipedia to manage all the synonyms and directions. So I'm going to leave it here for now, maybe someone else can run with it. metaJohnG (talk) 02:07, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Massive Editing

Google cache is showing a different (possibly 10x more detailed :P) version of this page which seems better, can anyone fix it :D i would but dont know how to revert it to a previous date —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmb1992 (talk • contribs) 12:21, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

german translation

i think the appropriat german article of "data integrity" is "Integrität (Informationssicherheit)" and not "Konsistenz (Datenbank)". if that is correct, please change it in the english article 129.132.208.189 (talk) 11:30, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Propose merging with Data corruption article

Data integrity is basically a synonym for preventing data corruption. The literal meaning of "data integrity" could encompass everything from automated software data validity checks, to maintenance like defragmentation. Even something like manual data entry quality control fits under that umbrella. I propose merging this article into the Data corruption article. Badon (talk) 17:15, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Alternatively, it looks like this article has already been written from the database point of view, and so could probably be merged into Database integrity instead. Thoughts? Badon (talk) 17:17, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Agreed This is necessarily related to Database integrity and this article isn't too long.— Supuhstar * § 16:19, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

There are existing Wikipedia articles on "Information Security" that point to this article. Also "Hash-based message authentication code". In the computer science fields for which those articles apply, "data integrity" is NOT related to database integrity; in fact, the article on "Information Security" specifically warns the reader that "data integrity" in the context of Information Secutity should NOT be confused with database integrity. This warning is argument itself to NOT merge this topic! I suggest proponents talk to the authors of those documents to get their opinion. Or, if nothing else, fixup those inbound links to no longer point to this article if its scope is reduced to apply just to database integrity and not to data integrity in general. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaimeguerrero (talk • contribs) 20:40, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Work in progress...

I made a ton of changes. Citations and more to come when I have time. Data integrity is far wider in scope than database integrity. Database integrity deals with a lot of the logical aspects of data integrity and even some of the physical demands such as ACID compliance, but there's a ton of other stuff that deals very directly with data integrity in a far more general way. I think database integrity is an important subtopic, perhaps even large enough to have its own dedicated article that this one can link to, but I don't think it should be merged. If there is a special page on database integrity it should also examine non-relational databases and general methods they employ to maintain their integrity. Relational databases are popular and flexible but there are other options that sometimes are a better choice. For example HTTP sessions are rarely stored in a relational database, yet their data integrity is critical as they are authentication tokens. TCP maintains data integrity of a communications channel via checksums - it's no database.

File systems and storage arrays deal with data integrity but we don't typically think of them as databases, certainly not relational ones at that. This is an enormous topic. I was kind of shocked to see so little on it, so I started editing. I think the article should remain fairly broad as this subject touches a great number of other highly technical aspects, each with their respective articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vcfahrenbruck (talk • contribs) 13:45, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

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