Talk:David Bromberg (album)

Release date

The album release date in the article was recently changed from 1971 to February 16, 1972. How do we know that? Of the three footnotes, Allmusic and wirz.de both give the release date as 1971. Doing a google search, I'm seeing a date of February 16, 1972 at Rate Your Music, but I believe that's user created content, so I'm not sure how reliable that is. Can we find more, and more reliable, references for the release date? Here's one that provides circumstantial evidence -- an article from the February 5, 1972 edition of Billboard that says "Bromberg's current stint at Folk City, was timed to coincide with the release of his debut album." — Mudwater ^(Talk) 11:34, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Mudwater. Hope this message gets through − not quite sure how to go about discussion on article talk pages.

My interest in Bromberg comes through the George Harrison link (the excellent "Holdup" they co-wrote) and the release dates I've added are taken from a book I bought as a kid: Harry Castleman & Walter J. Podrazik, All Together Now: The First Complete Beatles Discography 1961−1975, Ballantine Books (New York, NY, 1976). (Page 111 contains the listing for David Bromberg LP, with dates and Columbia catalogue numbers.) The book is really just 380+ pages of lists: each and every Beatle and ex-Beatle release, year by year; song/musician credits, both for each Beatle and for his work for others; lists of bootlegs, movie projects, TV appearances, each and every Apple release, gold discs awarded (and when), any Billboard or Melody Maker chart appearance by a Beatle or an act associated with one of them − eg, page 363 shows the DB album first charted on Billboard on 25 March '72, at number 194 (its peak position, for two weeks). I've found this book super-reliable over the years.

Another book I've got from that era, but not one I'd necessarily trust for dates and facts (or the authors' opinions, for that matter), is Roy Carr & Tony Tyler, The Beatles: An Illustrated Record, Trewin Copplestone Publishing (London, 1978) − page 127 of which gives those same 16 Feb (US)/2 June (UK) release dates. ("The Holdup" was released as a single in the US on 15 May, b/w "Suffer to Sing the Blues" [in case anyone's interested!].)

Hope this helps. JG66 (talk) 13:56, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

It helps quite a lot, actually. All Together Now is exactly the sort of reliable, third party reference we like. And it's already cited in in the article, so I've just changed the placement of the footnote to show that it supports the release date, here. Thanks! "P.S." You're doing fine with discussing the article here on the talk page. One tip would be not to start a new section for each post, just for each new topic, so I've removed the talk page section header you added. Generally editors indent their replies with colons, as I've done here, and as described in the "Talk pages" tab of the Wikipedia:Tutorial. The tutorial is highly recommended reading by the way! As a second and even more minor tip, thanks for signing your talk page post with four tildes, but you can leave those off of your edit summaries. Anyway, thanks again! — Mudwater ^(Talk) 14:10, 14 March 2012 (UTC)