Talk:David Edgar (soccer, born 1987)

Removed POVs in the article

Such as:

• 'Edgar is arguable way better than Huntington'
• 'After Huntington was picked ahead of him, Newcastle starter Titus Bramble went up to David and told him that Huntington would be nothing without him at the back.'
• 'will more than likely help the Canadian national side qualify for World Cup 2010 in South Africa.'

Also I feel a few citations are needed in the article. Bababoum 13:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Good choice to remove those. Citations are still definetly needed but I can't find any good ones XD ~ John Jacques

Thanks John Jacques. I have added some more citations since my original message so I think that's just about covered now. Bababoum 13:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup

I have cleaned up the references in this article, and reworded some sections to remove non-neutral statements. Don't think I lost any cited information doing so - if anyone disagrees please re-add it with a source using the <ref></ref> tags to create an inline citation. Cheers. QmunkE 14:42, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Rating and importance

I've added the {{football}} template and rated this article as B class with mid importance. Anyone who disagrees strongly, feel free to change it. QmunkE 19:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Links for info on Edgar

Thought I'd include this incase anyone wants to add information with references. It's a thread on a football forum with links to articles about Edgar. Bababoum 18:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

David Edgar Thread

Edgar Canada U-20 captain?

David is not team canada u-20 captain, it's Will Johnson.Jonzo12 12:20, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

It seems rather strange that the captaincy was given to Johnson, as prior to the U-20 World Cup Edgar captained the side in every match. Sir-Nobby 19:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Whitecaps appearances

Edgar's Whitecaps appearances is listed as 0 (zero), which seems wrong, as the Vancouver Sun's piece on last night's game versus Colorado has him in the lineup: Van v. Col Sept 24, 2016 So, my question is his number of Whitecaps appearances correct? Trb333 (talk) 18:28, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

http://www.whitecapsfc.com/players/david-edgar is the correct source.

The infobox reflects that. The table does not. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:17, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

OK, I fixed the table. Trb333 (talk) 23:17, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

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Requested move 11 April 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved - General consensus to move/clarity(non-admin closure) Tantomile (talk) 16:10, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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• David Edgar (soccer) → David Edgar (Canadian soccer)
• Dave Edgar (footballer) → David Edgar (Scottish footballer)

– Previous RMs have said that soccer and footballer are insufficient given it is the same sport, just a LANGVAR difference. One is deceased, one was a national team player, so no ambiguity with nationality to require birth year. RedPatch (talk) 14:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

• Edit When I was at the David Edgar disambiguation page, where they were both listed and guess I didn't look closely enough and didn't notice it was "Dave" not "David". I'm open to cancelling this since they are different titles. RedPatch (talk) 12:24, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
• Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. RedPatch (talk) 14:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Comment. Seems to be in a bit of a mess. Changed David Edgar (footballer) to Dave Edgar (footballer), because the former is presently a redirect to David Edgar (soccer). Redirects are ineligible to be current titles in move requests, and it appears to be "Dave Edgar" who is wanted in the 2nd proposal. And note that if "Dave" is the Scottish footballer's COMMONNAME in reliable sources, then it should not be changed to "David". P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 18:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
  • Response Thanks. I didn't notice that. I was at the David Edgar disambiguation page, where they were both listed and guess I didn't look closely enough and didn't notice it was "Dave" not "David". I'm open to closing this since they are different titles. RedPatch (talk) 20:29, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom. GiantSnowman 18:56, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support adding nationality identifier to both pages and make David Edgar (footballer) a redirect to the David Edgar dab page due to the fact these are similar names to one another and in the event the second page does get moved. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 19:57, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose exact proposed title for the first one as nonsensical, support David Edgar (Canadian soccer player) instead; see Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#"Soccer" disambiguators. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 23:33, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support David Edgar (soccer, born 1987), which is clear standard disambiguation over nationality, and retain Dave Edgar (footballer), as the Canadian soccer player is not known as Dave. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:13, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

• Support disambiguating by year of birth. GiantSnowman 18:38, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
• Comment If Dave is suffiently different from David, then this proposal to use DOB is unnecessary. It is inconsistent to further disambiguate one with yob but not the other as Necrotheesp proposed. These two are the only two soccer/footballers. RedPatch (talk) 20:29, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

• Not viable, as both were/are actually called David and could be referred to as David. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:14, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Okay, but then they would both require further disambuguation then. One but not the other is inconsistent, is it not? RedPatch (talk) 10:37, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Not at all. One was called David but known as Dave. Nobody else on Wikipedia is called Dave Edgar. The other is called David and known as David. There is another person on Wikipedia called David Edgar. We only disambiguate when necessary. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:28, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but there would be no other David Edgar with a soccer/footballer, hence the additional YOB being unnecessary. Soccer would suffice. RedPatch (talk) 15:34, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Looking at David Edgar (swimmer), you will see two sources (at least) refer to the swimmer as "Dave" so the Scottish footballer may not be the only one called Dave Edgar.

In terms of YOB identifiers: last year I nominated a soccer player named Jordan James to be moved to Jordan James (soccer, born 1982) because there is a Birmingham City player titled Jordan James (footballer, born 2004) so I think the Edgar situation may result the same. Since we have Dave and David here, it may well not be. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:02, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Nobody is saying Dave Edgar (footballer) is the only Dave Edgar. Nobody is suggesting removing the disambiguator. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:38, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

You seem to misunderstand. Dave Edgar was also called David Edgar and may be referred to as David Edgar in some sources. "Soccer" and "football" are interchangeable. So we need to disambiguate David Edgar with YOB, but not Dave Edgar. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:38, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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