Talk:David Morse/GA2

GA Review

Lead

• "Later on he had roles in movies such as Stephen King's The Langoliers, The Crossing Guard, The Green Mile, The Rock and Twelve Monkeys." Why are these more relevant than other movies he has been in?
• "In 2006, he had a recurring role as Det. Michael Tritter on the medical drama House gaining Morse an Emmy Award nomination." I suggest re-wording this, to "In 2006, ..., which gained him ..."
• "Most recently Morse portrayed George Washington on the HBO miniseries John Adams for which he is currently nominated for another Emmy Award." Most recently dates the sentence, perhaps change it to a specific date. Also don't use currently unless absolutely vital per WP:DATE.
• "But his most famous theatre performance was his portrayal of Uncle Peck on the Off-Broadway play How I Learned to Drive for which he earned a Drama Desk and Obie Award." Change but to however. Or re-write. If this is his most famous theatre performance, it would look better higher up, or even simply just before The Seaferer.

Early life

• "He has three younger sisters." Needs a ref.
• "Morse is 6' 4" (or 1.93 m) and has blue eyes." Ditto. Secondly see WP:UNITS on how to properly write 6ft 4in. I would suggest using the {{convert}} template, since it does all the hard work for you.

Career

• "Morse studied acting at the William Esper Studio. He began his acting career in the theatre as a player for the Boston Repertory Theatre in the early 1970s. He spent some time in New York's theatre community in the early 1980s before moving into television and film." Each sentence needs a reference.
• "After the finale of St. Elsewhere in 1988, Morse went on to appear as a supporting character in films such as The Good Son, The Rock, Twelve Monkeys, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Contact, and The Negotiator. Morse had starring roles in The Indian Runner and The Crossing Guard, which were the first two films written and directed by Sean Penn. He has also appeared in three adaptations of Stephen King stories, The Langoliers, Hearts in Atlantis, and The Green Mile. In addition to this Morse was a guest star on Homicide: Life on the Street, as the racist cousin of Detective Tim Bayliss (Kyle Secor)." What makes these films relevant to his career? Did he win any awards? How were the films received by critics? This whole section could really be expanded an awful lot.
• "Around 2002, Morse starred as Mike Olshansky, an ex-Philadelphia police officer turned cab driver," Around is very vague. It needs to be an exact date.
• "Around 2006," ditto.

Theatre

• "In addition to his film and television career, Morse has continued to appear on stage." Why do you say "continued to"? It's the first time you've mentioned it, so it doesn't make much sense.
• "In 2007/2008, Morse appeared on Broadway in Conor McPherson's The Seafarer." Which was it 2007 or 2008? If both, say so, i.e. From 2007 to 2008, or In 2007 and 2008.

Personal life

• Unreferenced.

General

• References should be placed immediately after punctuation. See WP:CITE.
• Don't force image sizes. See WP:IMAGE.
• Date ranges should have endashes. E.g. in the table 1982–1988. See WP:DASH.

A lot to do, but I'll put it on hold. Peanut4 (talk) 15:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Comment

Hello Peanut4, before I start, I would like to thank you for putting the article on hold and not just deleting it from the list; second of all I've increased the article, you can read below how.

Lead

• "Later on he had roles in movies such as Stephen King's The Langoliers, The Crossing Guard, The Green Mile, The Rock and Twelve Monkeys." Why are these more relevant than other movies he has been in? - I've changed some of the movies to movies wich performed very well at the box office.
• "In 2006, he had a recurring role as Det. Michael Tritter on the medical drama House gaining Morse an Emmy Award nomination." I suggest re-wording this, to "In 2006, ..., which gained him ..." - done
• "Most recently Morse portrayed George Washington on the HBO miniseries John Adams for which he is currently nominated for another Emmy Award." Most recently dates the sentence, perhaps change it to a specific date. Also don't use currently unless absolutely vital per WP:DATE. done
• "But his most famous theatre performance was his portrayal of Uncle Peck on the Off-Broadway play How I Learned to Drive for which he earned a Drama Desk and Obie Award." Change but to however. Or re-write. If this is his most famous theatre performance, it would look better higher up, or even simply just before The Seaferer. - done

Early life

• "He has three younger sisters." Needs a ref. done
• "Morse is 6' 4" (or 1.93 m) and has blue eyes." Ditto. Secondly see WP:UNITS on how to properly write 6ft 4in. I would suggest using the {{convert}} template, since it does all the hard work for you. - done

Career

• "Morse studied acting at the William Esper Studio. He began his acting career in the theatre as a player for the Boston Repertory Theatre in the early 1970s. He spent some time in New York's theatre community in the early 1980s before moving into television and film." Each sentence needs a reference. - done
• "After the finale of St. Elsewhere in 1988, Morse went on to appear as a supporting character in films such as The Good Son, The Rock, Twelve Monkeys, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Contact, and The Negotiator. Morse had starring roles in The Indian Runner and The Crossing Guard, which were the first two films written and directed by Sean Penn. He has also appeared in three adaptations of Stephen King stories, The Langoliers, Hearts in Atlantis, and The Green Mile. In addition to this Morse was a guest star on Homicide: Life on the Street, as the racist cousin of Detective Tim Bayliss (Kyle Secor)." What makes these films relevant to his career? Did he win any awards? How were the films received by critics? This whole section could really be expanded an awful lot. - Working on it

• "Around 2002, Morse starred as Mike Olshansky, an ex-Philadelphia police officer turned cab driver," Around is very vague. It needs to be an exact date. - check
• "Around 2006," ditto. - ditto

Theatre

• "In addition to his film and television career, Morse has continued to appear on stage." Why do you say "continued to"? It's the first time you've mentioned it, so it doesn't make much sense. - Read the first few lines of the "career senteces"; it says clearly: Morse studied acting at the William Esper Studio. He began his acting career in the theatre as a player for the Boston Repertory Theatre in the early 1970s. He spent some time in New York's theatre community in the early 1980s before moving into television and film.
• "In 2007/2008, Morse appeared on Broadway in Conor McPherson's The Seafarer." Which was it 2007 or 2008? If both, say so, i.e. From 2007 to 2008, or In 2007 and 2008. - From 2007 to 2008

Personal life

• Unreferenced. - not anymore

General

• References should be placed immediately after punctuation. See WP:CITE. As far as I know I didn't do anything wrong in the first place, please be a little bit more specific, where did I put the ref before the punctiation?
• Don't force image sizes. See WP:IMAGE. - Well, alright, but I still find the image a bit tiny.
• Date ranges should have endashes. E.g. in the table 1982–1988. See WP:DASH. done

If you have any comment, I would be glad to hear it. Music2611 (talk) 11:37, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Second review

Pretty much all done.

• Let me know when you've expanded part of the career section.
• None of the references were before the punctuation, but many had a space between the punctuation and ref. There shouldn't be any space.
• I still feel the personal life needs more referencing. Peanut4 (talk) 21:51, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Second comment

• I've finished the career section, is it good?
• I think there's no space between any of the references.
• There are some more references in the personal life section, and the "sugar allergy" part is deleted since there are no reliable sources that confirm this. Music2611 (talk) 13:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

• • I've tagged two claims in the personal life section which need referencing. Peanut4 (talk) 20:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

I've placed one reference that covers both The Indian Runner and The Crossing Guard, I couldn't find any reliable sources for The Rock so I've deleted it. --Music26/11 13:58, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

• Sorry to come back with one more point. The lead is too long per WP:LEAD. It should only be two paragraphs. Peanut4 (talk) 21:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

• • No problem, I've fixed the lead into two paragraphs. --Music26/11 16:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Well done. Everything meets the criteria now. Some nice improvements during the GA process. Good luck with further expansion, improvement and the future of the article. Peanut4 (talk) 18:42, 20 August 2008 (UTC)