Talk:Daydream (Mariah Carey album)

Latest comment: 8 days ago by 2804:214:885D:33B:2C69:E751:A1F1:AF12 in topic Wrong sales
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25 Million Claim

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Daydream has 11 million certified album units in the U.S. in addition to 13 million single units alone, would it be sufficient to reapply the 25 million WW sales figure? fidelovkurt 17:34, 9 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

What release date should be listed in the lede?

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In the "Background and release" section, it says this: Daydream was released in the United Kingdom on September 25, 1995,[1] Taiwan on September 26,[2] Europe on September 28,[3] Japan on September 30,[4] and the United States on October 3.[5]

References

  1. ^ "Ad Focus". Music Week. September 30, 1995. p. 20.
  2. ^ "Mariah Carey / Daydream" (in Traditional Chinese). Sony Music Taiwan. Retrieved October 3, 2022.
  3. ^ Bakker, Machgiel (October 7, 1995). "Airplay Action". Music & Media. p. 33.
  4. ^ "デイドリーム" [Daydream] (in Japanese). Sony Music Japan. Retrieved October 3, 2022.
  5. ^ Mayfield, Geoff (October 7, 1995). "Between the Bullets". Billboard. p. 120. ProQuest 1506003598.

The lede for a long time has shown October 3, 1995, as the album's release date (which is the one for the US, and follows naturally because Carey is a US artist), but a couple of days ago, this edit changed it to the earliest of the dates listed in the sentence I just cited (September 25, 1995 ... in the UK). And now another editor is changing this back to what it was.

Bringing this up as this could become an edit war. What guideline governs the date we should put in the lede? There usually isn't a problem with albums of today, because there is a global release date, applying to all countries, but evidently, this wasn't the case in 1995.

Pinging Heartfox, who made the edit to the earlier date. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:18, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

I made a mistake with the UK date. According to the October 7 Music Week (page 21) accessible here, it was actually released on September 28 (Thursday), not Monday Sep 25. The problem is that magazine issues are dated in advance, and so Sep 25 had not actually passed before the Sep 30 issue was published. Therefore, the earliest known date is the Taiwan one, which comes from Sony Taiwan's official website. According to guidance at Template:Infobox album, "Only the earliest known date that the album was released should be specified; later release dates (incl. re-issues) can be mentioned in a Release history section." It does not specify artist home country superiority. This is what I have followed with the edits. I take extreme care with these edits and only source them from high-quality secondary sources like Music Week/Billboard or record label official websites. Heartfox (talk) 21:41, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply
I have additionally included a quote to support the UK date, and with this greater transparency, hopefully deter reversions. Heartfox (talk) 21:47, 5 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2024

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Hello, Mariah Carey's Daydream Album is certified 5x Platinum in New Zealand, can we fix this? 2804:214:8856:5CAA:17DD:96F:8B55:A0D2 (talk) 02:39, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Charliehdb (talk) 14:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariah_Carey_albums_discography
Go to "Studio Albums" and look at the certifications next to the charts
"Scapolo, Dean (2007). The Complete New Zealand Music Charts 1966–2006. RMNZ. ISBN 978-1-877443-00-8."
it says that Daydream is 5x Platinum. The same goes for her other albums, Music Box is 5x Platinum, Debut is 4x Platinum, Merry Christmas and #1's are both 2x Platinum, but the official article for all her albums just says it's platinum Justabadguy (talk) 16:12, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
other reliable source https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_New_Zealand_Music_Chart
go to "List of certified albums"
Daydream - 5x platinum
Music Box - 5x platinum
Debut - 4x Platinum
Merry Christmas - 2x Platinum
  1. 1's - 2x Platinum
MTV Unplugged - 2x Platinum
Emotions - Platinum Justabadguy (talk) 16:21, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Daydream certifications

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Mariah Carey's album Daydream is certified 5x Platinum in New Zealand, but on the official Wikipedia page it is only platinum, can you correct that? 2804:214:8856:5CAA:17DD:96F:8B55:A0D2 (talk) 02:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Certifications NZ

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Platinum certifications in New Zealand are 15,000 units for albums, not 10,000, so Daydream sales are 75,000 for being 5x PLATINUM :) source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_New_Zealand_Music_Chart Justabadguy (talk) 18:10, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Daydream certifications

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Daydream is certified 5x Platinum in New Zealand (75,000 units), not just Platinum.

Sources: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_New_Zealand_Music_Chart (Go to "list of certified albums"


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariah_Carey_albums_discography (Go to "Certified albums)


Book: "Scapolo, Dean (2007). The Complete New Zealand Music Charts 1966–2006. RMNZ. ISBN 978-1-877443-00-8"


Justabadguy (talk) 19:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

New Zealand certifications

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Daydream is certified 5x Platinum in New Zealand (75,000 units), not just platinum as it is in the official Wikipedia article.

Sources: (Go to "list of certified albums") https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_New_Zealand_Music_Chart

(Go to "Studio Albums") https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariah_Carey_albums_discography

Book: "Scapolo, Dean (2007). The Complete New Zealand Music Charts 1966–2006. RMNZ. ISBN 978-1-877443-00-8"

Justabadguy (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wrong sales

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this album is certified 5x platinum (75k units) in New Zealand since the 90s!!!

Official sources:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_New_Zealand_Music_Chart (this article shows all album certifications in NZ) Other source:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariah_Carey_albums_discography (In the "studio albums" part it shows the certifications)

Book: "Scapolo, Dean (2007). The Complete New Zealand Music Charts 1966–2006. RMNZ. ISBN 978-1-877443-00-8"

2804:214:885D:33B:2C69:E751:A1F1:AF12 (talk) 15:23, 29 June 2024 (UTC)Reply