Talk:de Havilland Dragon Rapide

Hi, Franco used a Dragon Rapide to be carried, in secret, from the Islas Canarias to the Spanish Morocco, NOT from "Africa to Sapin".

There is a also a 1986 spanish movie, "Dragon Rapide", about the whole history [1]. Randroide 09:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Pronunciation

Is "Dragon Rapide" pronounced as English, or as French, or as a combination?
RA-pid, or ra-PEED? Dragon as English, or as nasal French?
Varlaam (talk) 15:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Its pronounced; dragg-un rap-peed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 19:05, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Accidents

It is good to see the accidents section being expanded, but a lot of entries are unreferenced. MilborneOne, this makes it particularly annoying to me to see a referenced entry deleted as "non-notable". Opening for discussion as to whether or not the entry (below) should be included.

• 15 April 1947, G-AHKR of British European Airways crashed into Slieu Ruy whilst operating a scheduled passenger flight from Speke Airport, Liverpool, Lancashire to Ronaldsway Airport, Isle of Man. There were only minor injuries amongst the six people on board.{{sfn|Poole|1999|pp=120–21}}

Whilst I would not argue for a stand-alone article, it does meet the inclusion criteria under the WP:AIRCRASH guide to be included under both aircraft type and airline articles. Mjroots (talk) 18:55, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Being referenced does not make it notable, I cant see anything notable the crash of G-AHKR one of loads of non-fatal accidents to the Dragon Rapide, if you have anything that makes it over the bar compared with the other non-fatal accidents? MilborneOne (talk) 19:01, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Maybe not, but from WP:AIRCRASH "For airline and large civil aircraft..." "Accidents or incidents should only be included in aircraft articles if: ..." "The accident involved hull loss or serious damage to the aircraft or airport; ..."

The aircraft was written off, which means it meets the criteria for inclusion. As not everyone will have access to the book source quoted, a link to the ASN Wikibase is included for convenience (noting that the Wikibase is not a RS, although the ASN Database is). This RS also covers the accident. Mjroots (talk) 19:13, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

So are we saying that if it is in "Airline" service then even being non-fatal and not particulary notable it can be included if it was a hull loss? MilborneOne (talk) 19:18, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

That is what Aircrash says, isn't it? Whilst discussing this, I'd also like this removal to be reconsidered. G-AGUE was a write-off, as was G-AGMF. Mjroots (talk) 19:25, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Of course, it may be that the section becomes long enough that a stand-alone list is required. That would not necessarily be a bad thing. Mjroots (talk) 19:26, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

OK I understand and I think a stand-alone is the way to go, we have always been more tolerant with stand-alones listing all hull-losses.If I get time in the next few days then I will break it out myself but please feel free to restore the others if I dont get there first. MilborneOne (talk) 19:32, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

@MilborneOne: you may find the ASN Wikibase useful as a start point for further research. Mjroots (talk) 20:03, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

The Rapide has a gross weight of 5,500 lb (2,490 kg), therefore it is very much a light aircraft and so under WP:AIRCRASH, even though it may have been used commercially, the accident in question should not be included as not-notable. - Ahunt (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Cecil Bebb

Is there any real evidence that Cecil Bebb was an agent of any British intelligence organization in 1936, or, if he was, that his membership had anything to do with the Franco flight? This is implied by the text of the article; it seems a highly suspicious conclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.242.177.55 (talk) 18:40, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

"Survivors"

Can someone confirm the status of G-AGJG (at Duxford?), and add it to the list if it is still active Rspencer01 (talk) 08:20, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Hercule Poirot

Translated by Google. Which plane is flying at the beginning of the movie "Peril at End House"?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0182361/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.59.67.5 (talk) 09:44, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Notable Appearances in the Media

I don't know if it is notable, but I'm sure Dragon Rapides feature in the GoCompare.com TV advert screened on UK TV from July 2017 --TrogWoolley (talk) 14:58, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

If there is a ref available and the appearance is significant it would go in Aircraft in fiction. - Ahunt (talk) 13:35, 8 August 2017 (UTC)