Talk:Deane Keller (draftsman)

Latest comment: 14 years ago by Tenmei in topic Disambiguation, father and son

Lyme

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This "reference" link has become non-working:

I have no doubt that the information was viewable on July 13, 2007; but the link is non-working on November 2, 2009. There may be a way to restore this in a slightly different form? I wonder if a suggested form of the original citation will solve this problem?

  • "LACFA Dean Keller Exhibit June 2007," Lyme Line. June 2007?

There may be another way to proceed? --Tenmei (talk) 01:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

I've added working links to the school archives and Saatchi website re: the 2007 show. Thanks for your good work, Tenmei. Now back I slink into semi-retirement. JNW (talk) 15:47, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Artistic lineage

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This graphic student/teacher lineage may have a place in this article; however, this infobox would be better if it could be made smaller, narrower?

I quickly checked the lineage before posting it in the article; and then I went back to post the inline citation supports. However, that quick scan included the wrong Bridgman -- a contemporary Frederick Arthur Bridgman (also known as "the American Gérôme"). Both the American Bridgman and the Canadian Bridgman studied in Paris with Gérôme and Boulanger ... but I can find no obvious online source which documents a student/teacher relationship linking either of the Bridgman painters and either one of the Kellers.

In short, Manella relied on a source which I can't identify yet (or perhaps he was simply wrong); and this section needs to remain in a kind of limbo on this talk page until our small problem can be resolved.

Artistic lineage

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Deane G. Keller

Among Keller's students was Eric Mannella (b. 1974), who honored the passing of his teacher by explicitly identifying the connections inherent in other students-teacher relationships of a verifiable chain stretching across history to the French academic painters and the founding of the French Academy in 1648.[1]

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  1. ^ "Artistic lineage: Dean G. Keller," Atelier de Brésoles (Montreal, Canada). September 1, 2008.
  2. ^ AskArt: George Bridgman
  3. ^ Arcyclopedia: Paul Delaroche
  4. ^ Artcyclopedia: Antoine-Jean Gros
  5. ^ Artcyclopedia: Jacques-Louis David
  6. ^ Artcyclopedia: Joseph-Marie Vien
  7. ^ a b ArtNet: Louis Galloche

Comments? Questions? Suggestions? --Tenmei (talk) 16:24, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

My thoughts on this are that as interesting as it is, similar lineages can be constructed for many artists, so their value is worth discussing. Further, though I have no reason to doubt its accuracy, the source is a blog. This would probably be more appropriate to include, perhaps in passing, if it were first mentioned in a reliable source/objective publication. As it stands, it looks a little like original research. Okay, I'm gone again.... JNW (talk) 16:30, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Reply
Yes, thanks. For now, this looks like I walked a little too far down a promising path; but in the end, it simply turned out to be unworkable. Perhaps this has some justification in terms of exploring the perimeters of what Wikipedia is and is not? --Tenmei (talk) 21:03, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

Disambiguation, father and son

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See thread at Talk:Deane Keller#Disambiguation, father and son. --Tenmei (talk) 05:27, 24 November 2009 (UTC)Reply