Talk:Murder of Joanna Yeates

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Latest comment: 3 years ago by Martinevans123 in topic Is the "Coordinates" section encyclopedic?
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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the inquiry into the murder of Joanna Yeates, dubbed "Operation Braid", has become one of the largest police investigations in Bristol, England?
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ITV drama

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It seems ITV have decided to commission a drama about Chris Jefferies arrest, which is currently filming in Bristol. Obviously the programme will get its own article in time, but it may be worth a brief mention here. Any thoughts? Paul MacDermott (talk) 14:38, 5 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Yes, I think a small mention in the article is of interest for readers.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
A wonderful film. I wish Jeffries had an article, as he is certainly notable outside of the murder event.That man from Nantucket (talk) 12:08, 31 January 2016 (UTC)Reply
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Is the "Coordinates" section encyclopedic?

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None of the locations are notable in themselves, and other than perhaps establishing the fact it all happened in a relatively small area (something which could also be explained in text), it doesn't provide extra context to the article itself. I mean, I can see niche uses, but I don't think Wikipedia is meant to be used as a tour guide. --181.115.61.86 (talk) 03:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Interesting question! I should start by saying (a) that I have no strong feelings and (b) I'm very much not a regular around crime articles – I'm only aware of this one because of an interest in the area and address. That said, I did have a quick and rather random check through a selection of serial killer articles (well that was bl**dy depressing!) and my vague and unscientific conclusion is that detail like this is uncommon in other articles, but not unknown. This particular one, with the table of coordinates, does seem an especially elaborate approach: in some other cases someone's just made a simpler graphic with an annotated map. Oh dear, I think I am going to be a bit useless to your enquiry but my feelings – for what little they are worth here – are along the lines of (a) no very strong view but I tend to lean towards remove it, or reduce it to a simple map graphic; (b) is it possible to ID the editor who added it all and, if they are still active, ask them to pop back in to discuss this; and (c) is there a relevant Wikiproject that could be consulted? It would be interesting and helpful to know whether there exists a standard approach. I really hope you get a more useful response than mine, perhaps from someone more experienced in this field. I do get it that the article does mention all the locations in the table, but I agree that it is unclear whether their inclusion in this way is encyclopaedic or essential. But not something over which I would go into battle. With best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 22:50, 7 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Added by User:Tagishsimon in February 2012 here. And removed (then immediately restored) by User:This is Paul in March 2012 here. Both still active editors, as far as I can see. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:59, 7 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
I see that in March 2012 I was taking this through FAC, and reviewers kept telling me to remove the list of co-ordinates. I don't really have a view on it, although I suppose there's some historical interest in it as areas change, businesses come and go, buildings are demolished and replaced with other buildings, etc. This is Paul (talk) 00:23, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
I wouldn't want to deny the effort that User:Tagishsimon must have put into creating this and, for some readers, it may be very useful. But I suspect for most readers it won't repay the investment of time taken to check each location. I think a map would be very much more useful, if one could be produced. I'd certainly like to get Tagishsimon's views. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)Reply