Talk:Deaths in December 2022

Brian Casser

@Renewal6: I find you’re being a bit over scrutinizing over what is likely a typo. I’ve run the article through several translators and got back “On Christmas Day”. Even then I don’t see how “On Christmas Days” disqualifies it. You can’t assume they mean the second Christmas Day, as well as how does the sentence “on Christmas Days” even make any sense? Rusted AutoParts 11:27, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

I don't see any typo in the source: "On Christmas Day" would be translated as "am Weihnachtstag" (not "an Weihnachten"). The Boxing Day "is considered the second day of Christmas" in Germany (per article), so the sentence makes perfectly sense. We should wait for an unambiguous reference. Renewal6 (talk) 12:28, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Whichever way you look at it, there is reasonable cause for doubt as to which of the days he died on, so obviously, casting the evil of assumption aside, it should for now be a death announced entry. Ref ^(chew)(do) 14:51, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

I really disagree there is reasonable doubt. Boxing Day is inherently its own day and would be referred to as such, not awkwardly as “on Christmas Days”. If that was the aim would there not be a “one” in there? “On one of the days of Christmas”? Rusted AutoParts 15:53, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Subsequent sources published today have given conflicting days anyway so I shall cede my stance on that basis. Rusted AutoParts 16:01, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

Which is the point I was trying to make - where there is doubt, hang fire. Ref ^(chew)(do) 16:03, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

What does seem to have changed is the official (?) spelling of his surname, to Cassar. Ref ^(chew)(do) 13:10, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Have you looked at his talk page? Editrite! (talk) 21:27, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Even though Magic Pop is a blog source, this issue may now be

Resolved

Ref ^(chew)(do) 08:39, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

"May" being the operative word. Editrite! (talk) 22:24, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

Which is why I used that word. Ref ^(chew)(do) 01:07, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

Inappropriate move by User:Q6637p

The article needs to be moved back to Deaths in 2022 and redirected to Lists of deaths by year#2022 (as in previous years). The current version distorts the revision history: The revisions before the move are NOT earlier revisions of Deaths in December 2022. Renewal6 (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

If that's the case, why have you not initiated this yourself? It's not an admin move per se. Personally, I have spotted no problems with it having been done this way. Ref ^(chew)(do) 20:12, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Because an admin must delete the newly-created redirect first. Renewal6 (talk) 01:34, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

I agree, Q6637p stuffed up the end-of-year rollover. The contents of Deaths in 2022 should have been cut-and-pasted to Deaths in December 2022 per SOP, rather than making a sloppy page move. There were numerous complications ensuing. WWGB (talk) 02:23, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

I history-merged the talk page history from before the bad move. Then I reverted Talk:Deaths in 2022 back to what it should/would have been if the move hadn't been done. Then I moved the archive back without leaving a redirect. There shouldn't be redirects from scope changes; this leaves open the possible future creation of an Archive 1 for this page. Then I removed templates from this page that only got there as a result of the bad page move. And marked the only open discussion as having been moved. I'll let others decide how/when to archive that. History-merging the talk page was easy as it doesn't have too many revisions. History-merging the article page is more difficult because of its large number of revisions. – wbm1058 (talk) 12:57, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Well, I'll say thank you for the remedial work. Ref ^(chew)(do) 21:24, 4 January 2023 (UTC)