Talk:Decadent movement
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Concept of Decadence
editIt would be nice if the "concept" section explained the concept in more detail. Currently, it is all about who called whom "decadent", with only (half of) the first sentence actually explaining what the concept was all about. LachlanA (talk) 07:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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My thought is that there is a major need for editing here. In looking at the list of artists supposedly associated with the Decadent Movement, I noticed several questionable entries. Edvard Munch, Gustave Moreau, Odilon Redon (a Symbolist, IIRC), and Anton Chekhov (???) among them.
I'm not the person to do these particular edits, but I'm sure that someone with more knowledge of late 19th c. European painting (especially French painting) and Russian literature should be able to set things straight. Macongo ([Usertalk:Macongo|talk]]) 15:18 8 March 2009 (UTC)Macongo (talk) 19:19, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Why no mention of its founder Sade? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.13.155.21 (talk) 19:29, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
Things Assosciated with Decadence
editI'm doing a seminar on Decadence, and I've taken some key words from Decadent Style (John R. Reed), Baudelaire (Jean-Paul Sartre), The Decadent Poetry of the Eighteen-Nineties (John M. Munro) (not really in a particular order):
- Melancholia (masochistic, depressed, schizoid)
- Revolution (independent of society, politics, morals and virtue)
- Sexual inversion (eroticism, sensuality, homosexuality)
- Beauty in the ugly
- Artificiality (Aestheticism, art for art's sake)
- Art is permanent and useless
- Poète maudit
- Drug abusers/alcoholics
- Fantasy/introspection/escapism/idealism (which ends in hopelessness)
- Weltschmerz (for Baudelaire, mostly)
- Transcendence
- Self-conscious (detail)
- Self-conflict, contrast, paradox
- Suffering
- Emptiness, void, abyss, nothingness
Modern revival in Russia
editThe Russian article has some information about a modern revival of this movement in Moscow & St. Petersburg. Esn (talk) 10:17, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
Please, some elaboration
editAll this article says is that, yes, there was this art movement called The Decadent Movement and here are some of the artists associated with it. And that's about it.
What are some overarching themes in the Decadent Movement? What questions or issues did they struggle with? Were there any important exhibitions? Was this primarily a literary movement or one of fine art? Or music? Or film? Were there any geographical centers of activity? How did they distinguish themselves from the Romantic Movement?
So much more needs to be said here. Any art history majors with some time on their hands? 69.125.134.86 (talk) 20:36, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
Misuse in Communism is missing
editTerm used in Stalinist repression as a label and accusation, leading to interdiction of publication and worse. Should be at least mentioned, even if only indirectly related. Arminden (talk) 05:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Is this the Stalinist equivalent to the term degenerate art which Nazism used for forbidden art? Dimadick (talk) 11:35, 21 October 2024 (UTC)