Talk:Decline of Detroit

IS THIS STATISTIC FALSE?

Article says "As of 2017 median household income is rising, criminal activity is decreasing by 5% annually as of 2017, . . . ."

Such a statement has little meaning without good explanation. What time period is covered? I think to be meaningful a list over the last 10 years is required: For each year 2010-2019 (fro example) criminal activity rate could be listed (2010 up 6 %, 2011 down 7 %, 2012 up 3 % etc.) Did the editor mean to say that in 2017 the criminal activity rate went down 5 % compared with 2016? But are such stats reliable? What is criminal activity? Running stop signs? Littering? Murder? And is this reported crime? Is there anyway to know criminal activity totals for a year? What percent of crime is actually reported? (PeacePeace (talk) 23:37, 31 July 2019 (UTC))

Quoted statement is no longer accurate. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2021/01/06/detroit-homicides-shootings-2020/6563259002/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.228.115 (talk) 11:18, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Detroit Resurgence?

It appears to me that the article does not have reliable sources to establish any resurgence of Detroit. "Observers have pointed to" is hardly is a reliable approach to proving resurgence. IMHO the whole section should be deleted and replaced with a factual presentation of solid evidence for resurgence, if such exists. Some presentation of how "resurgence" is objectively measured is required. Can it be established that population is increasing? dependence of welfare decreasing, schools improving, crime decreasing, occupied decent houses increasing? Property tax decreasing, employment increasing, etc.? (PeacePeace (talk) 23:46, 31 July 2019 (UTC))

I don't believe the section should be outright deleted, but I agree that these sources probably aren't enough to characterise this as "resurgence". The section also reads too much like press cuttings. Daß Wölf 02:45, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

There are 10 citations to reliable sources and plenty more are available. PeacePeace has an unpleasant agenda. -- Jibal (talk) 04:09, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

PeacePeace has since been banned from Wikipedia via community consensus. I believe it’s safe to keep the Detroit Resurgence section intact. R. J. Dockery (talk) 16:52, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

Is there a non-dead link to the block discussion? I think it would be relevant for transparency and stuff like that. Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:14, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

All of the points he made in his comment are valid and fair, regardless of whether he has since been banned for other reasons. --91.34.250.128 (talk) 11:41, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

POV issue

This article is highly editorialized, which compromises its neutrality. Example:

Detroit's legacy of discrimination in housing has stretched long and far. During the Roaring Twenties, African American neighborhoods in Detroit experienced a renaissance; one full of prosperity, livelihood, and industry within black communities. However, due to the economic hardships of manufacturing industries, these communities fell on hard times, and devolved into decrepit remnants of what they once were. These areas soon became overcrowded, underfunded, and mistreated. Moreover, the mass migration of hopeful blacks from the South into these neighborhoods exacerbated their problem with overpopulation. Given the lack of industry, terrible living conditions, and overpopulation, many black citizens sought a way out, but found it was not easy.

–LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:47, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Merge with 'History of Detroit'

I propose merging this article into the article that deals with the History of Detroit. All of the items in this article can be linked in a historical context. The fact is that other cities have suffered worse than Detroit, yet they don't have standalone articles which continue to disparage the city. For example, St. Louis lost a larger % of its population, and now has far worse violent crime, but there is not a standalone article called "Decline of St. Louis"

The mere presence of this page contributes to an ongoing negative perception of the City of Detroit that is outsized from the reality. Yes, Detroit's decline was due to a number of unique factors. But that just means that it warrants a larger section in the History article. Nobody searching for decline of Detroit will have lost time or value by simply being redirected to the main history article with this same info instead. KnnNike (talk) 21:21, 23 May 2022 (UTC)