Talk:Deep Ellum, Dallas

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I really enjoyed this article. Thought maybe it could include a list of current live music venues. Also, think something should be said about graffiti, which I think makes Deep Ellum Deep Ellum.

Requested move

This was cut-and-paste moved to Deep Ellum, Dallas, Texas, which although consistent with other Dallas neighborhoods, seems like unneccessary disambiguation. A check of google hits for "Deep Ellum" were all for the Dallas neighborhood (at least in first 200 hits). If it stays at the current location the histories should at least be fixed.

This is a bit muddled now, but how about people vote according to their agreement with the following statement: The article belongs at Deep Ellum, Dallas, Texas instead of Deep Ellum.

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• Oppose --Laura Scudder | Talk 15:27, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose --Dystopos 17:26, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
• Oppose Fix the histories, but keep at Deep Ellum. Dragons flight 00:39, July 17, 2005 (UTC)
• Support I'm actually rather indifferent about where the page is, but it was originally moved for the sake of consistency with the other Dallas neighborhood pages as noted above.. and though I agree that the edit history should be preserved, I also feel that being systematic in naming is important. drumguy8800 17:51 17 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't see any consensus for the move, so I've merged the histories and the article is at Deep Ellum. Talrias (t | e | c) 14:02, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Discussion

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Trees

Trees closed. Should it just be taken off the list? Elsprucemoose 03:20, 30 January 2006 (UTC)ElSpruceMoose

Clubs/history

I happen to be wearing a Blind Lemon t-shirt at the moment I (randomly, honestly) ran across this following up a link from another article. So, circa mid-1990s: Blind Lemon? Art Bar? - Jmabel | Talk 06:01, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Typical Generic Wikipedia language

Why was the section on the Good-Latimer tunnel changed from the specific time of it's destruction to the typical wikipedia generic language?

One of the most disappointing things about wikipedia is how often things are just stated in a generalized and unspecific way.

IE Spring 2007 instead of May 2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.235.180.177 (talk) 06:50, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I find one of the most disappointing things to be how poorly people understand the concept of the Neutral Point of View. Just in general. Eaglizard (talk) 00:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

External Links

I changed the external link for savethescene.org. The page is still up and we retain control over it, but we do not really use it. We are currently using myspace as our primary page, which is myspace.com/savethescenenow. We are an all volunteer organization that seeks to foster music, art and diversity in Deep Ellum. We meet every week, coordinate events, and even work on the political side a bit. Oh, and you wouldn't you know it, we phased out the name savethescene in favor for DEEP (Deep Ellum Enrichment Project). Currently the deepellumenrichmentproject.org redirects to our myspace page.

HSC1073 09:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC), Director of DEEP

2616 Commerce

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Map

http://www.dallas-ecodev.org/SiteContent/66/documents/Incentives/PIDs/DeepEllum/PID_DeepEllum.pdf WhisperToMe (talk) 20:56, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

"Crime Recession" Expansion: Revitalization/ Construction

Under "Crime recession" there is a mini paragraph discussing the 2007 plan to grow Deep Ellum. Should we expand and update on that? Instead of focusing on how no other city in DFW has emerged like this one, we could include how the construction and new buildings has added to its growth. Jennasl (talk) 22:33, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Trees Dallas

Split parts of "Entertainment district" section into new article called "Trees Dallas" - Trees Dallas won the Dallas Best of Award 2012, has a capacity of 600, has hosted some of the best musicians in the world, and is published in several sources:

--Jax 0677 (talk) 02:44, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

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This article has a cohesive history section and in general covers the area pretty well. It still needs quite a bit of cleanup both visually in terms of layout and organization and in terms of content cohesiveness.. good article, though. It is nationally known and is thusly of high importance. drumguy8800 C T 04:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Substituted at 21:39, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

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Work to Be Done

In 'Talk' I read that improvements have been made in the article but examples of poor grammar, misused terms and historical accuracy abound.

More than a few of these sentences are riddled with inaccuracies, not to mention cringe worthy: 'After independence from the Mexican-American War, Texas became a part of the United States in 1845. Four years later, Dallas was founded after the Civil War. '...independence from the Mexican-American War'? Look at the dates for the founding of Dallas. The Civil War (American?) was quite a bit more than four years after Texas became part of the U.S. Basic historical knowledge or proofreading seem to be lacking.

Another example: what does this sentence have to do with the article? 'Even some theaters and entertainment areas were constructed for neighborhoods in the 1890s.' I've read it five times and I still don't know. The sentence is vague and barely connects to the surrounding paragraphs. RobotBoy66 (talk) 09:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

"Rules" image is terrible

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