Talk:Dehomag

IBM cost Holocaust?

This eventually allowed the Holocaust?

can we get some source for this? 71.99.92.124 (talk) 05:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I presume you meant to write "IBM caused [the] Holocaust?", though that's not what the article says. There is a difference between enabling, allowing, permitting something to occur (even aiding in something, as Dehomag did in the case of the Shoah) and causing something. The claim that IBM caused the Holocaust is yours, not the article's. But as for IBM very significantly enabling and aiding the Holocaust, here's the most famous (and accessible) source: IBM and the Holocaust

31.18.250.227 (talk) 19:23, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

I doubt it. Same for "Dehomag was one of the pillars of the Nazi party's control over German society" - take that as truth and I suppose then one of its other pillars was the paper making industry! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.143.19 (talk) 16:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

This whole article is a lot of overblown hype. Just because evil people use something does not make the suppliers of that thing a pillar of the evil doers activity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.225.129.79 (talk) 20:45, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

If you deal directly and intentionally with the evil ones, you are being a pillar of their villainy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.29.71 (talk) 22:15, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

From IBM and the Holocaust:

IBM Germany, using its own staff and equipment, designed, executed, and supplied the indispensable technologic assistance Hitler's Third Reich needed to accomplish what had never been done before — the automation of human destruction.

More than 2,000 such multi-machine sets were dispatched throughout Germany, and thousands more throughout German-dominated Europe. Card sorting operations were established in every major concentration camp. People were moved from place to place, systematically worked to death, and their remains cataloged with icy automation.

IBM Germany, known in those days as Deutsche Hollerith Maschinen Gesellschaft, or Dehomag, did not simply sell the Reich machines and then walk away. IBM's subsidiary, with the knowledge of its New York headquarters, enthusiastically custom-designed the complex devices and specialized applications as an official corporate undertaking. Dehomag's top management was comprised of openly rabid Nazis who were arrested after the war for their Party affiliation. IBM NY always understood –from the outset in 1933— that it was courting and doing business with the upper echelon of the Nazi Party.

31.18.250.227 (talk) 20:22, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

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Factory location

Lankwitz in Berlin. TICOM SIR 1704, p. 6. scope_creep (talk) 21:07, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Disestabilished?

Does it still exist? Was it bought by another company? What happened to it after the war? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:54, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

According to the German language Wikipedia article it was renamed on 29 May 1949 to ,,Internationale Büro-Maschinen Gesellschaft mbH" (i.e. International Business Machines) which is now known as IBM Deutschland Kiore (talk) 23:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Punched card image

There is a horrifying image of a Rassenamt-SS punched card at [1]. The same image can also be found at https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/ibm-and-quot-death-s-calculator-quot-2 (image itself here), where the image source is given as the Bundesarchiv. Can anyone find an online source from the Bundesarchiv itself? What is the copyright status of this image? -- The Anome (talk) 09:19, 7 June 2019 (UTC)