Talk:Delta Air Lines Flight 1141

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It appears the registration number is N473DA, not N473DL. Googling for the former finds 206 pages; the latter, only one - a mirror of our article.

Googling for N473DA plus 1411 yields only five pages, none of which look particularly authoritative. N473DA plus 1141 finds 36 pages, many of which look more reliable - a page on the NTSB's site, a page on NASA's site, an aviation safety site, etc.

So I'm renaming it and fixing whatever links to it. Thanks to 213.249.154.101 for first noticing the error. Tualha 6 July 2005 16:03 (UTC)

Crewmembers killed?

If anyone has the information on which crewmembers were killed on this flight (Job titles, not personal names), would you please include it in the article? Thanks. --Schmendrick 22:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The Captain, First Officer and Flight Engineer all survived. Two flights attendant passed away.

The NTSB concluded in its report: The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of this accident to be (1) the Captain and First Officer's inadequate cockpit discipline which resulted in the flightcrew's attempt to takeoff without the wing flaps and slats properly configured; and (2) the failure of the takeoff configuration warning system to alert the crew that the airplane was not properly configured for the takeoff.

The Captain, First Officer and Flight Engineer were fired in 1989 shortly before the release of the NTSB's final report.

The Flight Engineer was rehired by Delta Airlines in 1990. He is still with Delta (2007) and is now a 767 Captain.

Contradict

The information in the Infobox regarding number of passengers and survivors needs to be verified, as right now it contradicts with what is on the Delta Air Lines page, or the other way around. JRHorse 14:00, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Verified, and updated Delta Air Lines page to reflect it was 94 survivors, not 94 uninjured. Added ref. to full report, though I was hesitant to include the URL since it seems to be a copy stashed on some school's site. You can't seem to get the full report from the NTSB site itself. --GregU 06:20, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

The article states: The CVR tapes recorded extensive talk about the pilots' mixed beverages and the dating habits of the stewardesses.

The was no mention of mixed beverages in the CVR tape. The crew was not talking about the dating habits of a flight attendant on 1141. They were discussing the Continental 1713 accident that happened November 15, 1987. That flight crew was discussing the dating habits of one of the flight attendants.

What is unique is that in a majority of CVR tapes from accidents you will hear profanity in the final moments. There is no profanity in this recording.

Incomplete

This article needs more information on the crash itself. Did it it crash on the runway, or did it crash 4 miles out? Incomplete information. -Rolypolyman 03:38, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Seating Chart

There is no legend with the seating chart, so the color coding is useless. Was it removed, or was it not included in the first place? Gil gosseyn (talk) 08:39, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

There is a legend now Bucky winter soldier (talk) 14:27, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Preflight conversation

"The aircraft was instructed to line up on the runway and hold for one minute due to the possibility of wake turbulence from an American Airlines DC-10 that was departing. The crew requested to extend the hold to two minutes, which was granted. The crew talked to the flight attendants for a while about what they would say on the cockpit recorder in case they crashed. Eventually this chat ceased as the crew was cleared for takeoff. The takeoff was normal until the main wheels left the ground, at which point the aircraft commenced a violent rolling motion and the right wing dropped." Why were they talking about something like that? Did they know something was wrong? Or just small talk? Weird. Bucky winter soldier (talk) 14:29, 6 October 2023 (UTC)