Talk:Demographics of North America

Mistakes Made

I would say that the score of this article is about a 3 out of a possible 10, 10 being the highest. The person that wrote the article didnt even divide race from ethnicity or nationality! This will confuse people about a topic that is already a very confusing topic if one does not understand how to define race,nationality and ethnicity!

For example, Chinese people are divided into distinct ethnic groups and Chinese is also a nationality but it is not a race! There can be Chinese Caucasians for example. And the term "Asian Indians",I dont even think that this term is correct! I think "East Indians (from India)" is the correct term to describe their Ethnicity because their race is Caucasian(northern Indians)!(the majority race in India)Someone is going to have a fun time cleaning this up! The article needs to be divided into race,nationality and ethnicity. There is a lot of work to do! And, Religion needs to be added to the article too.

Clean-up Request

There are three problems with this article:

1. 1) No Citations, or explanations of where this information comes from
2. ) Information can't possibly be completely correct, Mexico percentages add up to more than 100.
3. ) Difference needs to be made between racial demographics and country of origin. (ie, "Chinese" is not comparable to "White").

I've lowered Mexico from being 100% + n% other things, but because 'hispanic' (or whatever) isn't listed, Mexico is now very low. Also, I added a couple citations for the data I added. -- General Wesc 04:49, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Yikes, it looks like the "averages" aren't even weighted; someone just did some arithmetic with the percentages instead of populations. I'm deleting those for now, agree that (1 year later) this article still needs a lot of help! Grease Bandit 22:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Comment

As it is now this article is absolutely bare numbers with no explantion or anything, several cleanup tags, and is totally unused (Check the "Whatlinkshere"). Can it be deleted untill needed, and then recreated (hopefully better written)? I'm going to ProD this and see what comes up. 68.39.174.238 01:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

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Mexico

30 % American Indian? Uh, no. 12 % American Indian, how about reading the Demographics of Mexico? "Mexico is ethnically diverse. The second article of the Mexican Constitution defines the country to be a pluricultural nation originally founded upon the indigenous peoples . Traditionally, Mexico has defined itself to be a Mestizo country, mostly of Spanish and Amerindian ancestry, or also, in word of José Vasconcelos (1925), the melting pot of all races, both culturally and ethnically.[29] Even though there are no official statistics for ethnicity (other than those reported for indigenous peoples), it is estimated that somewhat between 60 to 75% of the population is ethnically mestizo, whereas only 12% is Amerindian. Caucasians and/or Whites make up the rest 10-15% of the population, mostly descendants of Spaniards, whereas other ethnic groups -namely Afro-Mexicans and Asians- make up only 1% of the total population." Iamanadam 16:08, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Mestizo

Oh yes, I thought I'd make the point of saying, that Mestizo is anyone with mixed White/American Indian blood. Hispanics are not the only people in the United States who are "Mestizo" (I'm quite aware that Hispanics come from a wide array of backgrounds),and they may be much larger than 10% of the US's population. The problem is, is that most people who are two or more races generally check only one race box on the census, not only that, unless someone has a CDIF and is enrolled in an Indian tribe, they're not going to count them as Indian anyways. While racial mixing has been common through out most of our history in the US, many Americans are quick to deny it. So, until we can get a reliable source for Mestizo/Mestis/Mixed-blood, then I think we should remove it. Iamanadam (talk) 22:08, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Mestizo, once more

okay, who keeps editing Mestizo? I have family in Mexico, and I know that the majority of Mexicans are not full-blooded Indians. It seems like Indio propgandists. Most Mexicans are mixed White/Indian. While, whoever put that there is right about Mestizo being a cultural value, but not in ALL situations. You want a country that's predominatly Indian? Go to Bolivia. For God's sakes, read the Demography/Demographics of the country's statistics. Besides that, since Mexico does not ask race for any statistic at all, and these are ESTIMATES. Then, should there really be anything there? I've spoked my mind. Iamanadam (talk) 15:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Blah, Blah, Mestizo

Once again, I had to change the Mestizos and Indians back to the OFFICIAL government documentation. Most Mexicans are not full blooded Indian, common knowledge should tell us that. I'm tired of the demographics section becoming a Mexica propoganda. This is wikipedia, no neutral point of view is not allowed. Go up, find out if the Mexican government has done genetic testing on every single Mexican citizen, and if more than 50% are full blooded Indian, then I'll change it to what you want. However, only 12% of Mexicans are full blooded Indian, 60% are Mestizo, and 30% predominant Indian. Stop arguing with the Mexican government. Iamanadam (talk) 23:53, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Reopening this article?

This article was merged with North America on 1 February 2013, but I think, if it was reconstructed in a similar style to the articles based on other continents, it would provide better continuity of articles based on continental demographics, as well as allow this topic to be explained in more detail than it currently is in the article it's been merged with. Would be interested to hear people's thoughts. --82.34.243.21 (talk) 21:31, 17 June 2013 (UTC)