Talk:Demonizing the enemy
Latest comment: 5 years ago by Antidiskriminator in topic Merge with demonization
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non-reliable source
editThis, which is pretty much what the definition is based on, is most likely not a reliable source, given the publisher. Volunteer Marek 06:35, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Book written by Jules Boykoff is used as source for carefully attributed assertion what Jules Boykoff thinks. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:00, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- It's AK press, a fairly fringy publisher (though I like their Murray Bookchin stuff). So yes, the book is a source for what Jules Boykoff thinks, but why should we have an article about what Jules Boykoff thinks? Because that's pretty much what this article is. It's not a notable/reliable source. Volunteer Marek 07:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Your reply is WP:IDHT case. A book written by Jules Boykoff is used as source for carefully attributed assertion what Jules Boykoff thinks. If you can not present any evidence that the publisher misinterpreted Boykoff's opinion please present it here. Otherwise, please drop the stick. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:07, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- No, YDUI. The point is that the whole article is based on this idea of Boykoff's, which he published in a book which is neither notable, nor does it even satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for notability. "Attributing" something is not an escape clause from WP:NOTABLE, WP:RS or WP:OR. Nor is it supposed to be a way to sneak around (WP:GAME) Wikipedia's policies on WP:FRINGE. Volunteer Marek 08:14, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- I have a feeling that you are going to tag bomb this article too. If you really think this article is based on idea of Boykoff's, please be so kind to put your money where your mouth is and initiate AfD of this article. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- I'm thinking about it. Looking at the sources in more depth first. Volunteer Marek 18:27, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- I have a feeling that you are going to tag bomb this article too. If you really think this article is based on idea of Boykoff's, please be so kind to put your money where your mouth is and initiate AfD of this article. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- No, YDUI. The point is that the whole article is based on this idea of Boykoff's, which he published in a book which is neither notable, nor does it even satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for notability. "Attributing" something is not an escape clause from WP:NOTABLE, WP:RS or WP:OR. Nor is it supposed to be a way to sneak around (WP:GAME) Wikipedia's policies on WP:FRINGE. Volunteer Marek 08:14, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- Your reply is WP:IDHT case. A book written by Jules Boykoff is used as source for carefully attributed assertion what Jules Boykoff thinks. If you can not present any evidence that the publisher misinterpreted Boykoff's opinion please present it here. Otherwise, please drop the stick. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:07, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
- It's AK press, a fairly fringy publisher (though I like their Murray Bookchin stuff). So yes, the book is a source for what Jules Boykoff thinks, but why should we have an article about what Jules Boykoff thinks? Because that's pretty much what this article is. It's not a notable/reliable source. Volunteer Marek 07:24, 25 October 2014 (UTC)
Merge with demonization
editShould be merged with Demonization which already has a section on political demonising. Crawiki (talk) 13:08, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- I am opposed to your merge proposal. The article on demonization refers to "...any characterization of individuals, groups, or political bodies as evil". This article is about the propaganda technique used against targeted enemy.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 23:04, 1 December 2018 (UTC)