Talk:Dental attrition

Hello myself itdent, Student 17222397, Dentalunistudent, Kyrrolos Hanna, Student17412407 are current Oral Health Students from La Trobe School of Dentistry and Oral Health. Through La Trobe University we are undertaking a subject to make easily accessible information for all individuals credible. This is a capstone subject where students use existing knowledge and skills from earlier subjects (oral and basic sciences, public health and research methods) to apply evidence-based practices and programs in a variety of settings.

Our goal is to edit the Attrition (dental) page and provide credible information that is easily accessible to the general public. We intend to add more information to the page and make it more informative.

The Topics we intend to cover: Edit definition and abstract, Signs and symptoms, Aetiology (cause, Characteristics, Prevention/Management, Non-carious tooth tissue loss

Do not hesitate to contact if you have any areas of concern

Most kind Regards itdent, Student 17222397, Dentalunistudent, Kyrrolos Hanna, Student17412407 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itdent (talk • contribs) 05:48, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

References

I think there is still some error with the references number 11 has come up with an error and a list of references have have been added the end

Regards, Itdent Itdent (talk) 08:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi, reference numbers 10 and 11 are same by error I think. Regards, DentalunistudentDentalunistudent (talk) 09:38, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi everyone, I am having trouble with a repeated reference in the reference list. I have discussed this with others and they said that the first time the reference is cited you can use the full text but every consecutive time it is abbreviated. Does anyone know this abbreviation? Regards, Kyrrolos Hanna Kyrrolos Hanna (talk) 10:01, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

I fixed the references for you, mostly. There is still ref 17, which is invoked but never defined. Pls someone who knows what ref 17 is supposed to be add it back in. Many thanks. Matthew Ferguson (talk) 20:01, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

On the issue of refs, I note that some sources are primary sources. Please stick to textbooks and literature reviews, systematic reviews and the like. Matthew Ferguson (talk) 20:01, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Photos on the page

Hi everyone,

I think it would be best if we try to add more photos to the page. The current picture example of attrition is probably not the best example so I think it would be best to change this. Also I think a picture of a splint would be helpful for the treatment section. Thoughts anyone?

I thought that http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:F%C3%A9rula_descarga.JPG#globalusage may be an appropriate picture showing a splint fitting. I have tried to embed the file but I cannot get it to work. Can some one help?

Student17412407 Itdent (talk) 08:08, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

I agree with the idea of adding more photos in relation to the dental attrition to the page. The picture of splint fitting is good one. I have also tried but cannot add it to the page.

Dentalunistudent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dentalunistudent (talk • contribs) 23:49, 19 April 2015 (UTC) Dentalunistudent (talk) 09:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi Guys,

I agree the picture is defiantly not the best interpetation of dental attrition and a picture of a splint would be great

I tried and can't add it to the page I will try again

Also I still can't fix the referencing !!!

Regads, Itdent 08:08, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

The reason I can't get the image to work is because it is alerting that there is another file with the same content this is for the image selected by Student17412407

Regards, Itdent Itdent (talk) 08:08, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I was able to upload a similar image and I have added it to the treatment section let me know if this is suitable

Thanks Itdent Itdent (talk) 08:08, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I was able to add in a different picture let me know what you guys think

Itdent Itdent (talk) 08:08, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi all, The picture of the patient wearing occlusal splints in treatment section is good one. In my opinion it is suitable. Thankyou DentalunistudentDentalunistudent (talk) 09:19, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi everyone,

The pictures placed on the page are a much better representation of attrition than before. Thank you for taking the initiative and locating more appropriate pictures. Sorry I was unable to upload - I was having technical difficulties.

Keep up the good work!

Student17412407 (talk) 01:28, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Hey guys, These pictures are great and I think they convey what the page is trying to illustrate. I had some pictures I wanted to add into the NCTSL section to visually differentiate from the varying forms of tooth surface loss. Let me know what you guys think.

Great job team !

Kyrrolos Hanna (talk) 08:12, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi everyone,

I think it is a good idea to add the pictures of different forms of non carious tooth surface loss in this section.

Thankyou. Dentalunistudent.Dentalunistudent (talk) 10:54, 25 April 2015 (UTC)--Dentalunistudent (talk) 10:54, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Uploaded Images

Hi all

The images I have added are as follows

• Loss of tooth characteristics
• Typical appearance of attrition
• Patient wearing an occlusal splint
• Image of an occlusal splint

Is everyone happy witht the images do they think that they give a good inrerpretation to the reader? I am happy to add in any other images if these images are not applicable?

Thanks Itdent Itdent (talk) 00:23, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Hi all

The pictures uploaded recently are representing attrition in much better way than earlier, especially the appearance of attrition. I also like the picture of patient wearing occlusal splint which is good to interpret one of the managements of dental attrition.

Thankyou, dentalunistudent.Dentalunistudent (talk) 20:03, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

That's great to hear, let me know if anyone has any other suggestions for images? Reagrds itdent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itdent (talk • contribs) 22:10, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Causes

The information in the causes section is very informative however I am a little concerned that it may be too much information and alot for the reader to take in?

Regards itdent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itdent (talk • contribs) 22:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

In my opinion, it is our responsibility to provide evidence based information as much as possible. It is up to readers to take in as much as they like. Thankyou,

Regards,

--Dentalunistudent (talk) 10:52, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

I believe that some of this information may be unnecessary. I removed some text such as "this research shows", "this article shows" etc etc. I believe this sort of language is not necessary. If the readers of Wikipedia wish to find information the references are available to give the individual the option to find the sources if they wish to learn more. Some of the information provided is showing perhaps weak links to dental attrition. Is it necessary to write about psychiatric patients and dental attrition in such detail? This is just a small population which may be affected by dental attrition so perhaps one sentence would be sufficient in this section.

The page is developing well, keep up the good work everyone.

Student17412407 (talk) 11:22, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Someone has hijacked the first sentence or two under the "Causes" section, which now has become ungrammatical due to lack of proper punctuation, and further adds the use of MDMA ("Ecstasy"} as a "cause" without a reference to a relevant external source. (It may be true but needs to be documented.) As the dental students seem to be the owners of this page, I will leave it to them to make the necessary repairs. Taz Hood (talk) 15:22, 28 January 2018 (UTC) Taz Hood (talk) 15:25, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Helpful advice to student editors of this page

Please follow wp:medrs when selecting sources, and the article should follow the general style laid out in wp:medmos. Your attention on this article is much appreciated.

Specifically, I removed the content "tooth surface loss". The contnent seemed to be about the 3 other types of tooth wear and therefore did not belong on this page which is supposed to be focussed on attrition. We have a parent article for all types of tooth wear, so I moved the content there, after some editing.

In passing, I feel the description of acid erosion was inaccurate. Acid erosion is not confined to endogenous acids. Acidic drinks such as fruit juices are a major cause of erosion and these are exogenous acids. It also rarely posible to have occupational acid erosion. Matthew Ferguson (talk) 04:53, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Matthew Ferguson for your suggestions. We have been very appreciative for the work you have done with the page. Editing of the Wikipedia page has been quite difficult (particularly the referencing!) and we cannot thank you enough for helping fix our errors.

I agree with your decision to more the tooth surface loss section and I believe that the page is more topic focused now.

We will review the content of the causes section, and I agree with our concerns regarding the content. There is some information in this section that perhaps needs to be reevaluated.

Student17412407 (talk) 11:29, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I have addressed the definition of the erosion in the article. Please let me know if this is more acceptable.

Student17412407 (talk) 11:53, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes sounds good. Matthew Ferguson (talk) 17:56, 12 May 2015 (UTC)