Talk:Der er et yndigt land

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Why two translations, one of which we claim is "possibly more accurate"? Jwrosenzweig 17:57, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Maybe you should call the second translation "alternative"? Here is a brand new German version: de:Der er et yndigt land :-) - Arne List 09:15, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Kæmper

In this context, "kæmper"" means warriors, from "at kæmpe", to fight.

--Klausok 20:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Kæmper means giants, not warriors, i have never encountered one instance where kæmper means warriors, stop babbling —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.88.161.118 (talk) 05:12, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

But I have, and I am Danish. Kæmpe is sometimes giant and sometimes to fight. The word is still in use in ex. the word "forkæmper". Ex: http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Penge/2010/06/02/093651.htm?rss=true --87.50.88.27 (talk) 11:20, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Kæmper definetly refers to warriors in this context. Yes, it usually means giants in -modern- danish, but it may just as well be used to mean warrior, even today. "En kæmpe" is always one giant, but when used in plural it may be either -- only the context (and a healthy knowledge of how Danes actually speak) will reveal what is meant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.130.79.38 (talk) 15:19, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Anthem competion

I was thinking about adding some information on the competion for the national anthem. Originally Oegenslager didn't participate, and another song called "Danmark, Danmark, Danmark" won, but the song was so widely disliked that the managers asked Oegenslager directly to contribute a song, and then pronounced it the new winner. I am just not sure were to put it, or if there are any online references to the story. Carewolf (talk) 10:22, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Literal translations contain several errors

I noticed that the "literal" translation contain several errors: the first and second stanzas, for example, is translated as

   There is a lovely country
   it stands with broad beeches
   near the salty eastern beach :|
   It winds itself in hill, valley,
   it is called old Denmark
   and it is Freja's hall :|

This should be

   There is a lovely country
   it stands with broad beeches
   near salty eastern beach :|
   It winds itself in hill, valley,
   it's name is old Denmark
   and it is Freja's hall :|

Personally, I would prefer

   There is a lovely country
   it stands with broad beeches
   near salty eastern beach :|
   It winds itself in hill, valley,
   it's name is old Denmark
   and it is the hall of Freja :|

but both are equally valid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.130.79.38 (talk) 15:26, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

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Kæmper

Several time the translations of "kæmper" has been changed from "warriors" to "giants". While this is indeed the only meaning of the word today, it is not the intended meaning here.--Klausok (talk) 08:08, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Surely "warriors" would be "kæmpere" and not "kæmper"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.23.18.180 (talk) 01:06, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

If you read Saxo in translations from the 19th century, you will find "kæmpeloven", meaning the regulations of the royal hird. There is also the expression, rarely seen these days, "end lever de gamle kæmper", the old warriors still live, which refers to manly behaviour, not size.

"Kæmpere" I have never seen. It occurs in compounds, e.g. "nævekæmpere", fist fighters, but not as a seperate word. Klausok (talk) 04:34, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

I've never heard of this before and I haven't been able to find any confirmations of this claim on my own. Do you have any concrete citations?

I've only ever seen "kæmper" either as a single fighter, i.e. "en kæmper" or as multiple giants, i.e. "en flok kæmper."

And, as stated, multiple fighters being "kæmpere." 206.209.15.101 (talk) 17:06, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Here is the "kæmpe" entry in Ordbog over det danske sprog.

https://ordnet.dk/ods/ordbog?query=k%C3%A6mpe Klausok (talk) 09:44, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Music

There are two typographical errors in the transcription of the melody. The second note of both the sixth and seventh bars should be a G-sharp, not an F-sharp. It would make no sense to have a notated accidental F-sharp when F-sharp is in the key signature, and I have verified the actual melody here. and here, where it is available for free download.

AviJacobson (talk) 20:22, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

IPA

Austronesier Nardog Sol505000

Following on from discussions on User talk:SUM1#Danish IPA, I understand that certain elements like stops must be transliterated a certain way. However, the issue remains that perfectly reasonable fixes keep getting reverted in the IPA. Number one is, as I elaborated on User talk:SUM1#Danish IPA, the key simply cannot account for all use cases. It's supposed to be a guide, and that's highlighted here when we are dealing with a song. Every performance of the song rings out a full [ən] in the word salten, not [sæltn̩]. This, and fixes like this, cannot be retained for the sake of sheer accuracy. Just listen to performances, like this. There is also no reason to revert syllable breaks, especially in a song. · • SUM1 • · (talk) 08:28, 17 January 2022 (UTC)