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Short description: 1941 speech by Charles Lindbergh
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A fact from Des Moines speech appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 15 October 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:
Did you know... that Anne Morrow Lindbergh tried to warn her husband Charles Lindbergh of the backlash that his antisemitic Des Moines speech would receive?
Latest comment: 30 days ago3 comments3 people in discussion
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... that Anne Morrow Lindbergh predicted the backlash that her husband Charles Lindbergh's antisemitic Des Moines speech would receive and tried to warn him about it? Source: Lynne Olson, Those Angry Days: Roosevelt, Lindbergh, and America's Fight Over World War II, 1939-1941 (Random House, 2013), 379: Anne told Lindbergh that his remarks would be interpreted as "Jew-baiting" [...] she asserted, his speech was 'at best unconsciously a bid for anti-Semitism"; Susan Dun,, 1940: FDR, Willkie, Lindbergh, Hitler—the Election amid the Storm (Yale University Press, 2013), 301–303: Across the country newspapers, columnists, politicians, and religious leaders lashed out at Lindbergh for sinning "against the American spirit", as the New York Herald Tribune put it. "The voice is the voice of Lindbergh, but the words are the words of Hitler", wrote the San Francisco Chronicle
Comment: Vladimir Zitta was the 1st article of a 5 article hook. It would be nice to get to run this on the upcoming anniversary, September 11, but I didn't finish this as soon as I wanted to and I understand that'd be a tight turnaround.
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The article has: '"[n]o person with a sense of the dignity of mankind can condone" the Holocaust'. 'Holocaust' is outside the quotation and was not a word used at the time in this connection, so what did he actually say? I think the precise words would be useful. -- Robina Fox (talk) 16:19, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
I just edited it to say "the persecution of the Jews in Germany", which is closer to what Lindbergh actually said (he just uses the word "persecution"). Indeed, not only was the word not used in any sense before the war, even in 1941 the idea that the Germans would initiate a full-scale program of mass murder against all Jewish people in Europe still seemed far-fetched to many people outside the Nazi Party, even in Allied countries. Daniel Case (talk) 21:15, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
If he says the word persecution, why not just use that? I think it's significant that he says that of persecution broadly, and not specifically the Nazi persecution of Jews, and that the article reader would want to know that. —Compassionate727(T·C)23:32, 15 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Looks good Andre🚐 01:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)