Talk:Diabolus in Musica

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the term

diabolus in musica was not a scale but an interval in Medieval music: the augmented fourth or tritonus, a stacking of three major seconds like f(-g-a)-b natural.

Jcwf (talk) 06:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Well it's referred to a scale in all the sources so i guess if you have reliable sources the appropriate information can be added. M3tal H3ad (talk) 06:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

It's a specific dissonance which the medieval modal system considered particularly unmusical. See [1] and the article on tritone. The article should also have a hatnote linking to the disambiguation page at Diabolus in musica. Gimmetrow 07:10, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

GA nom on hold

This is only my fifth review, so bare with me.

• "Released on June 9, 1998 through American Recordings, it is the second studio album to feature drummer Paul Bostaph." This should be seperated into different sentances.
• The album sold 46,000 copies in its first week to peak at number 31 on the Billboard 200, although received mixed critical reviews. This should probably be re-worded, its kind of confusing.
• Blabbermouth.net shouldn't be italicized
• Blabbermouth.net shouldn't be linked in ref 8

That is all. Leave a not on my talk page when you are done. Nice job by the way, you rule. \m/ —Burningclean _{[Speak the truth!]} 22:23, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Done, thanks. M3tal H3ad (talk) 02:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Additional comment:

• Please wikilink Latin in the intro.
• In the tracklisting section, delimit the titles on their corresponding duration with a dash, using the code for en dash. Thank you. --BritandBeyonce (talk) 06:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Passed. —Burningclean _{[Speak the truth!]} 01:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

guitar tuning

allright, to all you non guitarists, this may sound pointless to include, however I think it should be mentioned that slayer tune their guitars to C# on this album (or at least some of the songs), instead of E flat, which will contribute to a different sound, and represents a change in maybe style or moving in a different direction musically. I'm just not sure if they tune to "drop c#" (basically this is a possibility as they tune to e flat normally, so it would explain it) or all strings down 3 semitones which kerry king does and did in a demo he did for a guitar magazine. As I can't find a definite citation, I won't add it, but if anyone can, feel free to add it.194.46.176.174 (talk) 22:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

It's actually played in Drop-D tuning, and yes I agree that it should be added in the article, but I don't know where I would add it, though. Adam9393 (talk) 22:50, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

flat fifth (tritone) not used in medival music

actually, here is a link of a 16th century lute player, and if you look in measure 2, you will see a tritone (c to f#), even though it is not a flat fifth from the keynote (d as key signature denotes d minor) also, as the tritone that occurs naturally in d minor is e to b flat ie. iidim, it suggests that the tritone is delibirate. http://www.delcamp.net/pdf/1_renaissance/neusiedler_wascha_mesa.pdf this somewhat contradicts that statement? suggest revising?194.46.176.174 (talk) 23:01, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Nu Metal

This isn't Thrash Metal, it's Nu Metal. The article itself cites sources that speak of it as a Nu-Metal influenced album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.17.125.97 (talk) 03:38, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

• Sorry, the majority of the sources state that it is thrash metal, and no one cares what you think. Slayer is a thrash metal band. This is a thrash metal album. It doesn't sound any different than any of Slayer's other albums. It sounds like Slayer. (Sugar Bear (talk) 21:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC))

I'd have to agree with the first guy, this is definitely a Nu Metal Album. Slayer takes more of a refined Nu Metal sound in this album than in previous ones like Hell Awaits or Seasons In The Abyss.199.107.16.119 (talk) 19:13, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

It's not really nu metal. It is more experimental, but it has a groove metal sound. TheEarthboundFan2001 (talk) 19:09, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Other album

There's another album: Diabolus in Musica (Salvatore Accardo album), so per WP:SONGDAB this should really be moved out to Diabolus in Musica (Slayer album) and redirected to Diabolus in musica dab page. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:03, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Diablus In Musica is Slayer's seventh studio album

If you do not count Undisputed Attitude as an album, it will add up to eleven studio albums. Also, as of January 10th, 2016, it says on SLAYER.NET, the band's official website, that Repentless is their ELEVENTH studio album which leaves Undisputed Attitude out of their studio album lineup.

1. Show No Mercy
2. Hell Awaits
3. Reign In Blood
4. South Of Heaven
5. Seasons In The Abyss
6. Divine Intervention
7. Diabolus In Musica
8. God Hates Us All
9. Christ Illusion
10. World Painted Blood
11. Repentless

2602:306:8B36:D960:C865:29FC:9B06:7130 (talk) 21:38, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

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Groove metal

I personally don't think it is nu metal at all. But, in the sources, it shows that there is groove metal elements. This album is definitely experimental, but it's not nu metal at all, it's just groove metal. TheEarthboundFan2001 (talk) 19:13, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

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There are no sources identifying this as nu metal

The majority of sources identify this album as thrash metal. --68.185.2.34 (talk) 19:19, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

@68.185.2.34: Can you please post, say the three most reliable ? - FlightTime (open channel) 19:23, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

• http://www.rockandmetalinmyblood.com/recensioni/slayer-diabolus-in-musica/1998-american-recordings/342/

• https://books.google.com/books?id=UffkZCMjXzoC&pg=PT244&lpg=PT244&dq=diabolus+in+musica+thrash+metal&source=bl&ots=z8oNq3yvq7&sig=UHpOBkC10FP0Lbqrlz-FJOLPF_8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjlh6a60aDXAhUM42MKHRlCD6M4MhDoAQhbMAc#v=onepage&q=diabolus%20in%20musica%20thrash%20metal&f=false

• https://www.decibelmagazine.com/2011/03/09/justify-your-shitty-taste-slayer-s-diabolus-in-musica/

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.2.34 (talk) 19:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Here's one for groove metal saying this is not a nu-metal album. http://www.vh1.com/news/17265/metals-biggest-sound-departures/ 68.185.2.34 (talk) 19:44, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Decibel magazine also says this is not a nu-metal album. 68.185.2.34 (talk) 19:45, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with this band, I requested you to post your references to help editors who regulatory watch this page, therefore I really can not argue your point, however rockandmetalinmyblood.com and decibelmagazine.com seem to be questionable as to their reliability, but lets wait to hear from editors more familiar with this band. Thank you for your response. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:56, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

This album is mostly thrash metal with elements of groove/experimental/nu-metal. It's an oddball but it's an experiment in the thrash style. It's not accepted as a core/essential thrash metal album, at least of the 1990s, but it has its place among certain fans and I like it enough to defend its place in thrash metal. SPNKs (talk) 06:41, 23 February 2019 (UTC)