Talk:Diamond Aircraft Industries

Questions about deletion

Hello we currently added a link on a new users forum for Diamond Aircraft Owners and enthusasts.

We are wondering was our link to our forum was deleted. We are a new group that just started up and can be verified.

````Steve Matthews —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bikeraz2000 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your question on why I deleted the links to your forum website.

I deleted your links to your forum because it does not comply with: Wikipedia:External_links#Links_normally_to_be_avoided specifically in that it is:

• A site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article.
• A link mainly intended to promote your website. This is called "spamming" See Wikipedia:Spam#External_link_spamming.

and especially

• A link to a social networking site, discussion forum/group

Basically external links to forums are not permitted in Wikipedia articles because they do not meet WP:Notability requirements and are just there to promote the forum website and not because they contribute anything to the article. Wikipedia is not a place to promote your own website. If you are posting a link to a website you created, see Wikipedia:COI - Ahunt (talk) 11:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Gallery photo

The gallery section in this article contains one photo showing some Diamond aircraft in high grass in the far distance. I think it is a rather poor quality picture and adds nothing to this article. Does any other editor think it should be retained? - Ahunt (talk) 15:31, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Lacking any objections it will be removed - Ahunt (talk) 14:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

2008 economic downturn

User:Crwwpd1 has now twice deleted the section of Diamond's reaction to the economic downturn, including lay-offs, even though the section was properly cited, saying in the edit summary: deleted unnecessary references to economic downturn. Just about all other aircraft manufacturer articles include information on this subject including:

• Cessna#2008_economic_crisis
• Piper_Aircraft#2008.2F09_economic_crisis
• Hawker_Beechcraft#2008_economic_crisis
• Adam_Aircraft_Industries#2008_suspension_of_development
• Cirrus_Design#October_2008_economic_downturn

Since the current economic situation is having a huge and lasting impact on the industry I do not agree that this section should be deleted from this article. Since this section is properly cited and its deletion has been challenged, a consensus is required to remove it. Other than User:Crwwpd1, does anyone else working on this article think it should be deleted?

User:Crwwpd1: Please explain why you think this is "unnecessary" to the history of this company, when it is relevant to the history of all other GA manufacturers. Because this deletion might be construed as removing unfavourable information on this company and because this is the only article you have edited please also indicate if you have any connection to this company.- Ahunt (talk) 19:43, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

• Agree Section was properly referenced, and contained timely info, relevant to the subject. Deletion was unwarranted. (Disclaimer: This user has not edited this article) Wuhwuzdat (talk) 21:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Ditto to the above comment. Stating the obvious, WP:BRD applies here. Noting the changes in a company's fortunes is not "bad form", it is merely recording history. I am not sure that it requires a "sub-section" however. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 11:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC).

• Concur with above, including Bzuk's opinion that a separate subsection is probably unnecessary (unless it were to drive the company out of business). Askari Mark (Talk) 18:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree that there is no need for it to be a separate section in the case of this company. Many other companies have had numerous staged lay-offs and so a separate section is probably justified in those cases. I have integrated the section into the history, by removing the title. - Ahunt (talk) 18:39, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

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