Talk:Diana Kennedy

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Did she have an MBE or OBE? the link on the right suggests OBE, but the MBE is stated on first line and above photo. I don't know how to check the honours system — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloudwarrior (talk • contribs) 18:41, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Shouldn't the "Books by Diana Kennedy" and "Books and Magazine articles published" sections be combined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.56.50 (talk) 06:28, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Expansion of article

I have expanded the article with fourteen sources. I should note there that I received some help from Mrs. Kennedy herself, to confirm details that were either unclear or contradictory in the sources, such as dates, that her cooking classes in New York were her own enterprise, the size of her property in Michoacán, etc. No original research is in this article in that there is nothing here that has not been previously published in at least one of the sources cited.Thelmadatter (talk) 16:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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Tex-Mex and authenticity statements are flawed

There are problems with the following sentence:

" It began to change Americans' understanding of Mexican food, expanding it beyond Tex-Mex into the various regional cuisines and dishes,[8][11] and is the basis of establishing authentic food in the U.S.[4] "

The first part of the sentence is clearly incorrect as it suggests the only variety of Mexican food available in the U.S., prior to Kennedy's work, was Tex-Mex.

Reference [8] does not support the first part of the sentence as it does not contain the term "Tex-Mex".

Reference [11] does use the term "Tex-Mex", but in an offhand way that does not support the above false suggestion with its broad scope.

The second part of the sentence is not carefully worded, and so is unclear. Reference [4] does discuss authenticity, such as of food from central Mexico that was unfamiliar in the USA prior to Kennedy's work.

Given the above, better would be:

"It began to change American's understanding of Mexican food, expanding it into the various regional foods and dishes, such as authentic food from central Mexico [4], [8], [11]."

It might also be worth it to add to the Tex-Mex wiki article something that references [8] and [11] to support something like, "Occasionally Tex-Mex is used more broadly to include the entirety of Mexican food common in USA prior to the 1970's" ... but only if the editors of that article believe this is actually a thing.

Spope3 (talk) 03:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

@Spope3: Here's what I found:

• "The Brit who saved Mexican food" states: "[...]and taught a generation of Americans that Mexican food meant more than tacos, nachos and chilli con carne." - Even if an American could technically go and get "authentic" food, most did not have the inclination to do so. Also via "tacos, nachos and chilli con carne" Tex-Mex is implied even if it's not stated outright.
• "Diana Kennedy, fiery chronicler of Mexican food traditions" states: "[...]Kennedy was the game changer[...] and our understanding of Mexican food was never the same." - Which again supports the sentence. Something being "available" is one thing, but something that a population understands or learns or accepts is another. Source 1 already supports Tex-Mex implicity, so source 2 further cements the "understanding" part.

WhisperToMe (talk) 16:48, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

"via "tacos, nachos and chilli con carne" Tex-Mex is implied"

Tacos are authentic to Mexico city, and tacos as prepared in California are very

similar to the Mexico City versions. The are not Tex-Mex.

Nachos and Chili con carne are arguably Texan. Tacos as prepared

in Texas, which are very different genre, are arguably Tex-Mex.

In what way does "Source 1 support Tex-Mex implicity"? I'm not following this.

Tex-Mex is a thing, but it's not what has ever been mostly served in California,

Arizona, or Nex Mexico. Texas is only a fraction of the territory acquired

in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, not the entire thing.

Spope3 (talk) 05:22, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2022

Dear Editor -

Please make two minor changes:

1) Please change phrasing from:

"Kennedy had no children,[6] but had two step-daughters from Paul's first marriage."[citation needed]

To:

"Diana Kennedy had no children but Paul had two daughters."

2) For this sentence, please add citation:

<ref>“Paul P. Kennedy of Times is Dead.” The New York Times, Obituary/Death notices. 3 February, 1967. “Mr. Kennedy leaves…two daughters, Mrs. Moira Martha Sims [Simms] and Miss Brigid Ann Kennedy.”<ref>

Greatly appreciated,

Paul P. Kennedy's granddaughter,

Brigid (Kennedy) Acuna, brigidkacuna@gmail.com Brigid (Kennedy) Acuna (talk) 22:46, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. MadGuy7023 (talk) 11:13, 6 August 2022 (UTC)