Talk:Dienstag aus Licht

Bosch?

What's the connection with the image? I see an obvious thematic link, but shouldn't there be some explanation for why the picture is there?Trumpetrep (talk) 23:24, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Probably. It's the best image of "Jenseits" that I could find on Wikimedia Commons, and Stockhausen somewhere describes Bosch as being amongst his favourite painters. I suppose I could add that comment in the caption, to make a link comparable to the one about the stained-glass window in the Altenberg Markuskapelle. Of course, Bosch forgot to include the glass conveyor belt and the stock-market clocks, though we may suppose they are out of view in the bright light beyond the end of the tunnel. Sometimes you get more than you can use (do you have any idea how many photos are available of Pietàs in Cologne churches alone?), and sometimes you can't find anything suitable at all (there is a "Jahreslauf" in the natural life of the seagull on Wikimedia Commons, and that is all).—Jerome Kohl (talk) 00:55, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the prod. I've added the reference, and it appears that Bosch might have intended to include the glass conveyor belt and the stock-market clocks after all. Stockhausen's reasons for admiring Bosch included his "fantastic ability to make concepts of past, present, and future relative. He anticipated the future—submarines, rocket ships—like Nostradamus, while at the same time placing prehistoric creatures in modern times. It's like being in a time machine. He showed beings … [which] can be seen to represent the man of the future, a man who can become more and more omnipresent and omnidimensional, who realizes that he is everything else" (Cott 1973, 215). "Jenseits", indeed!—Jerome Kohl (talk) 19:12, 28 August 2011 (UTC)