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Photograph
editThe picture shown here is not a normal australian dim sim. It is possible that it is a (much less common than normal dim sims) "large dim sim". Maybe I will go and get a real australian dim sim and upload it. The picture looks much closer to the original chinese version than the aussie version.
--UnnamedGent 15:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- Uh, I have no idea what a normal Aussie dim sim looks like, but that thing in the photo looks nothing like an authentic Chinese dumpling Bwithh 15:35, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.limjoon.com/goldenDimmy2001/dimmy2.jpg if it's legal to use this picture it's far more accurate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.207.98 (talk) 08:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
- Site was down, but I agree the photo in the article is not representative. Should look more like a really short, fat sausage. —DIV (128.250.80.15 (talk) 05:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC))
- Try [1]. —DIV (128.250.80.15 (talk) 05:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC))
That's a chicken dim sim on the front page, and they are larger usually. I used to make them when I worked in take away. The one pictured above is a dim sim though. Katana Geldar 02:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
It could be a chicken dim sim or it could be anything. it looks very much like a south melbourne market dim sims - the upmarket dimmy - that have become so popular around town. 210.23.130.14 (talk) 02:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes thta is correct the lower is the type of Dim Sim that was made at the South Market Market and became very popular, to the degree where it is now referred to as a South Melbourne Market Dim Sim. As Dim Sims are a Victorian product it is not surprising that we take ownership of them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.180.56.6 (talk) 01:17, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
Difference to Dim S*u*ms
editWhat exactly is the difference to the Dim Sum article? Unclear! Not sure the Dim Sims are that different from the westernised versions of Dim Sums en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dim_sum
If there is a difference, could someone pls explain, include it in this article, and cross-reference in "Dim Sum" as well —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sab ya (talk • contribs) 01:10, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Dim sums are smaller, abiut half the size of a dim sim. Katana Geldar 02:06, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Dim Sims have absolutely no relation "Dlim Sum", read the Dim Sum article and you will see that "Dim Sum" is a style of meal consisting of multiple foods. A Dim Sim is a single dumpling. It's like asking "What's the difference between toast and breakfast?" -130.184.253.28 (talk) 23:09, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
The above user is WRONG. Dim Sims were originally designed by Wing Lee as a Dim Sum styled dish, as a result Dim Sims(both Australian-Chinese style and Original Chinese style) are commonly served at Yum Cha outlets and restaurants. The Chinese actually call that smaller pork filling Yum Cha dish(with the prawn on top of it) "Dim Sims" in serveral diffrent dialects of Chinese and THAT'S WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM. So the above user is not correct. Colliric (talk) 06:47, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
- What's that rubbish? Are Americans now able to determine how to separate Chinese dishes? What would be the Chinese of Dim sim? Also 点心? That means there is no difference in Chinese. 点心 is any kind of snack. Using the term for something specific is just wrong. --2.245.254.8 (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Varieties
editSeriously, what's going on? All that is garbage? I vote we delete it. 130.194.144.75 (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Agreed. This article is outdated and inaccurate, including that picture. Maybe only in Melbourne they call this food a dimmy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.23.139 (talk) 09:33, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
Wrong and wrong again. The article is perfectly accurate and it is essential this article remain alone to mark the significance of the dim sim. The dim sim is an iconic food unique to Australia. It dominates the consciousness of an entire generation of schoolchildren and continues to persist today.
The picture is of a more sophisticated version of a dim sim but either way, this is an impressively delicious and tasty product far in advance of its Chinese equivalents. In fact, it should be exported round the world because of its highly nutritional aspects. great storage life and ease of cooking. They are the perfect snacks and will supersede chips! Long live the DimSim!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.219.240.155 (talk) 22:05, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
origin of the dim sim
editI grew up thinking it was invented in bendigo way before 1950...
See here http://www.victoria.org.au/Inventions.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hcantgfy (talk • contribs) 07:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
That simply sounds like the local chinese making their versions of dumplings. You may have also confused it with the origin of the chicko roll, which came from Bendigo. Strangly not on that site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.121.150 (talk) 13:47, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Ginger in Chinese cuisine
edit"as the dim sim has very strong gingery taste to it that is uncommon in authentic Chinese food"
I can't say that I've ever tasted a dim sim with strong ginger flavours. I've tasted MANY ginger-dominated dishes in China. Is this a joke? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.63.0.223 (talk) 03:28, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Merger request
editGiven that there's been no real arguments put in favour of the merger template that's been languishing at the top of this page since 2010, and it appears to be mistaken in any case, I've gone ahead and removed it. WikitorrensT 12:15, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
Vandalised
editI'm pretty sure this page has been vandalized ((help)) Sir Langan (talk) 04:53, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
- I had a go at fixing it. I might have missed some good edits though. Sir Langan (talk) 05:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
claim of invention
editI added a "citation needed" tag to the statement that it is widely believed that Young invented the dim sim. I can find a lot of web references that would seem to support this, but they all appear to merely be quoting the Wikipedia page, which for a long time did indeed say that Young had invented it. I find it hard to believe that this is a widely held belief, certainly isn't in my own experience. Since Young's claim of originator is not true, it seems more likely that Young made this claim merely as a bit of self-promotion, though that is just speculation. Perhaps he believes he invented it.WikiLambo (talk) 05:21, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
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Origin of term "dim sim"
editAccording to the article linked below, the term dim sim is not a misspelling (as stated by the wikipedia article currently) - the daughter of the inventor of the dim sim is quoted as saying: "They called it a dim sim because in my dialect we don't say dim sum, we say dim sim." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-08/dim-sim-invention-a-story-of-chinese-australian-history/7148450the — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.21.146.188 (talk) 21:47, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- so it's not a misspelling but an intentional variation for this particular usage?
- the article is horrible in how it treats it as a totally diff term. could we reword it somehow along the lines of "...a variation on 'dim sum', used primarily in oznz, which is smaller than the dumplings traditionally served for standard dim sum".
- fact that it refers to the ITEM ITSELF is also noteworthy. "dim sum", at least in the west, refers to the meal, the event, the style itself. i have rarely heard anyone say "a dim sum". at best, it would be "a piece of dim sum".
- do aussies (and nzers) share this usage? that is, can u say "a dim sum" same as how you're saying "a dim sim", or do u need to insert "a piece of" like the rest of us? that is, is the diff betw the two terms strictly one of item portrayed, or is there a whole diff in usage as well? 2601:19C:527F:A660:2977:276F:9512:AB4E (talk) 02:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
Alternate names
editWhat the hell is a "dimrock"? I've genuinely never seen it used – neither have I seen the terms "dimmie" or "dimmo". The only references I could find to these names in relation to the dim sim are referencing this article, so I've gone ahead and removed them. - AConfusedVarmint (talk) 06:30, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- I have heard of a dimmie (although I'd never even thought about how it might be spelt), but such content obviously needs to be cited to a reliable source, which we obviously didn't have. HiLo48 (talk) 06:38, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
- @HiLo48 Their isn't any reliable sources for the name dimmie because it possibly only exists in spoken language. I'll definitely keep an ear out while watching Australian cinema. lion Brand.com spells it dimmy, it's spelt dimmie on Wiktionary and the Macquarie dictionary word map spells it dimmie. I think that the Macquarie Dictionary could be considered enough of a secondary source. 124.170.101.42 (talk) 14:05, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- @AConfusedVarmint are your ears painted on or what, dimmies is what they're called, even my dog knows that. 124.170.101.42 (talk) 13:57, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
- One step further down the evolutionary ladder, I myself know that, as would every Melbournian. It doesn't need a source, as opposed to a sauce.Nishidani (talk) 14:26, 24 June 2023 (UTC)