Talk:Ding Liren

Second GM norm?

Why did FIDE accept this norm, because he achieved in the National championship (not enough for participated federations)? Én bạc (talk) 15:28, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

FIDE waives the international requirement for National Championships. CeviLevita (talk) 06:40, 18 Nov. 2021 (UTC)

Need to protect this article by "Pending changes protection" or "Semi-protection".

Due to past vandalism and future vandalism I think this article need a "Pending changes protection" or "Semi-protection (Permeant)". Please think about this one. IDB.S (talk) 03:45, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2023

Please change Ding Liren's title as he is currently world number one. Mist1568 (talk) 07:45, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Winning the World Chess Championship does not automatically make Ding the world number one, that ranking is determined by the elo of the player, and in terms of that Ding is currently world number three with 2789 elo, behind Ian (2794) and Magnus (2853). Zinderboff 08:43, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Zinderboff 08:45, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

removed statements about the number of Asian world chess champions

The lead section contained two conflicting statements about the number of Asian world chess champions: "One of only two Asians to ever become World Champion" and "the third Asian player to hold the title". I removed both since there doesn't seem to be a universally accepted definition of the extent of Asia; see Boundaries between the continents#Modern definition. The fact that two different numbers were given shows that it will be difficult to agree on a well-defined number. A case in point is Tigran Petrosian, who was born in Tiflis (unclear whether this counts as Europe or Asia), lived in Armenia (Asia) and died in Moscow (Europe).

If you reintroduce a statement on the number of Asian world chess champions, please explain here which definition you used and why. Joriki (talk) 10:23, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Shouldn't be Liren Ding?

His NAME is Liren. His SURNAME is Ding. His father is Ding Wenjun, which means Ding is their family name (surname). In China it's common to use the surname always first, but not in Western countries. So an article about "Ding Liren" can give the impression (to westerners) that his name is Ding, which would be false. Gonello (talk) 18:55, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

The first sentence already states “In this Chinese name, the family name is Ding”. Also I don’t think an article about Xi Jinping would imply to those in Western countries that the name is Xi, going by this logic.SBS6577P (talk) 12:55, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Character system used for Chinese names

Shouldn't the lede also show Ding's name in traditional characters? In China both systems are in use. Pechmerle (talk) 01:04, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

@Pechmerle: Firstly, simplified characters are massively the majority usage in Mainland China: we don't give traditional characters for Tan Zhongyi either, for instance. Secondly, it wouldn't even make a difference in Ding's case: all three characters in his name are identical in Traditional and Simplified forms. Double sharp (talk) 17:39, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification.

(It would be a bit more accurate to say that the characters in his name are already so simple in form that no simplification of those characters has been adopted.) Pechmerle (talk) 02:41, 4 May 2023 (UTC)