Talk:Diogenes Club/Archive 1

Archive 1

Does anybody know who started the "Diogenes Club" = "part of the British secret service" ball rolling? Was it, for instance, Kim Newman, or does the idea predate him? --Paul A 04:23, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Newman himself attributes it to Billy Wilder's film The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes, which is the earliest reference I've come across, so it may well be the one.[1] --Paul A 05:50, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mycroft's travels

"an indolent man who travels only between his home and the Club"

Actually, in "The Greek Interpreter" Sherlock says, "He... audits the books in some of the government departments. Mycroft lodges in Pall Mall, and he walks round the corner into Whitehall every morning and back every evening. From year's end to year's end he... is seen nowhere else, except only in the Diogenes Club, which is just opposite his rooms." Again in "The Bruce-Partington Plans" Sherlock says, "Mycroft has his rails and he runs on them. His Pall Mall lodgings, the Diogenes Club, Whitehall---that is his cycle."

So, Mycroft travels between his flat on Pall Mall, his Club (also on Pall Mall), and his office on Whitehall. Knowing Mycroft, I wouldn't doubt that he avoids going to his office when he can, but the canon does say that he travels there every morning. I'll add "and his office" to the article until someone else can think of a better way of wording the point. --Loopus 03:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Present Day Diogenes Club

I have removed a link to the website Stories from the Present Day Diogenes Club. This link seems to violate Wikipedia's external link policy by linking to a personal blog, albeit one named after the subject of this article. The blog did contain information on the Diogenes Club, but it also contained personal views and personal non-varified theories on the Club. Zifnabxar 05:04, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

This is of course not a person blog but a club blog which records the transactions of the all the club members. The present day club stands in the tradition of the fictional club and runs on similar principles. Such a link, I submit, does not in fact infringe any of the rules of Wikipedia and would be of interest to those interested in the subject of the entry. Dr Phil. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.180.88 (talk) 23:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Link looks fine to me. Fixed formatting a bit. Yaminator (talk) 19:47, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

As this link seems fine its reinstatement should be reconsidered. Dr Phil 18:26 13 January 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.205.158 (talk) 18:27, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I've removed the refernce to the KCL English Society, as the group was disbanded and then re-rformed last academic year without the refernce to Diogenes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.17.214 (talk) 17:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

There is also a real-life Sherlock Holmes appreciation society in California called the Diogenes Club. They have published a couple of books.

Newman

The British Secret Service section seems like an ad for Newman's stories. Three paragraphs out of seven are devoted to this author.

Am wondering if this strays beyond "encyclopedia" to "promotion." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.108.185 (talk) 01:04, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm of the opinion that Newman's Diogenes Club books need their own article, I'll start work on it sometime soon and merge most of this content. Euchrid (talk)

Having created Diogenes Club series, I'm planning on stripping the material about Kim Newman's books in this article down to a mention at the bottom and moving most of it (though it's haphazard enough that some will need to go I'm sure) into the new article. Any objections? Euchrid (talk) 22:07, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Done. Euchrid (talk) 02:32, 19 April 2012 (UTC)