Talk:Director-General of Inter-Services Intelligence

ISI chiefs

@WikiEnthusiast1001 You need to stop making changes to this page and first engage in discussion to reach a consensus. According to WP:BRD, your bold edit was reverted, and instead of reverting again, you were expected to start a discussion, which you have not done. Your edit is seen as disruptive because you are deliberately altering a reference by removing key information such as the ISBN, author, and a URL with the page number. Additionally, you cannot disregard numerous scholarly sources I cited in the AFD for Robert Cawthome and news sources simply because they are news outlets, in favour of a single source that contradicts them. Do you have any other source that suggests Walter Cawthorne, rather than Robert Cawthome, was the ISI chief? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 15:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Let's take a step back and look at the facts. I've provided three separate sources, and they all point to the same conclusion. How could there possibly be two different Cawthorns serving as Deputy Chief of Staff at the same time? It doesn't add up. For example, The Civil and Military Gazette of Lahore clearly states that Walter Joseph Cawthorn held the position of Deputy Chief of Staff. Meanwhile, the sources you've referenced only started mentioning a Robert Cawthome after the creation of the Wikipedia page for this so-called "Robert Cawthome." Now, imagine if you were looking through historical records, trying to trace the career of a prominent military figure. But every document before 2013 only mentioned one name—Walter Joseph Cawthorn. There would be no sign of a "Robert Cawthome" at all. That’s the situation we’re facing. If this person existed, there would be some mention of him before 2013, but there isn’t. The evidence just isn’t there. WikiEnthusiast1001 (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

More sources, here, here, and here, General Syed Shahid Hamid literally mentions Walter WikiEnthusiast1001 (talk) 15:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC)