Talk:Disappearance of Dylan Ehler
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Fix misinformation
editThere is a lot of misinformation to this Wiki, fact check before you submit, thank you. Dylansupporter (talk) 02:50, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Dylansupporter: Can you provide some specific examples? —C.Fred (talk) 02:54, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Dylansupporter agreed. The mother never called him a mother*** . It was a stupid tiktok everyone was doing. Very biased page. 2601:19B:4680:1DE0:4142:6976:A8F6:5413 (talk) 19:13, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
You could try to ask Tom Hurley yourself, or make sure you know what you have wrong before you post it. This has ruined many lives already. Here's a few, his group was not the 17K group, never once did he ever say that it was somebody within the immediate family that had something to do with it, and Stephen King's It was never mentioned, that third one was pretty strange to me and everyone else. The cyberbullying case has never had its chance to explain how it became about. Everybody is throwing rumors around and now I see that it's reached Wikipedia. Please remove Tom's name, including the cyberbullying case with 17 k members. The group only had a thousand people in it and it was to search for the child. There are very nasty groups out there and the one that he was accused of was not the one that he ran. Dylansupporter (talk) 03:11, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Dylansupporter: The news article about the settlement is a far more reliable source than any sort of original research involving [the second admin to settle]. The citation in the introduction supports the material in the introduction. —C.Fred (talk) 03:16, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
- However, there was material in the body of the article, including the item about It, that was not in either CBC article. That material has been removed. Further, under WP:BLPNAME, neither of the two administrators sued are notable enough for articles, so there is no reason to mention their names. Based on that policy, I've removed the names. —C.Fred (talk) 03:31, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Jason Ehler and his lawyer reported it was the group if 17000. That is a different group that agreed to shut found. Later it was reopened with Jason and Ashley as moderators. It's silly at this point in time Jason and Ashley still say the cyberbullying case was due to a group of 17000. Mommy6767 (talk) 16:19, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
Name
editUser:NonsensicalSystem, please look more carefully. "Brown" was inserted by an IP editor without explanation and certainly without sourcing. Our Wikipedia article is the only internet document with "Brown" in it, and this article in Wired has "Norman"--albeit inside a quote--as does this website. Neither of these are very strong, but there is NO CASE at all for "Brown", which seems to be simply either vandalism or an otherwise disruptive edit. Drmies (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies. I will be more careful next time. NonsensicalSystem(error?)(.log) 13:50, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Somehow we both ended up doing the same searches and looking at the same articles around the same time because you beat me to that exact edit and reasoning by less than a minute. I'll get you next time. GabberFlasted (talk) 13:56, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
I don't know if there is any reliable source giving a middle name for Dylan Ehler. Some non-valid sources claim "Brown" (which is actually the maiden surname of mother Ashley Brown), "John" (unverified) and I even found one source claiming his middle name was "Raymond" (again turned out to be unverified). I would go with government records, legal case records, missing persons pages created by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, or reliable news sources when it comes to a middle name, as there's no reliable general consensus online as to what his middle name is. PetSematary182 (talk) 04:44, 15 May 2022 (UTC)PetSematary182
Ashley browns videos false descriptors
editShe very clearly does not "call her son a motherfucker to his face" as shes mouthing a tiktok audio and not saying these things directly to her son. To say otherwise is intentionally painting her in a worse light by falsifying information. The video is very clearly not how it is described here. 216.121.177.33 (talk) 13:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Removed false claim of Marijuana smoking with child present
editThe article falsely claimed the mother smoked Marijuana in front of the child. They are CLEARLY misquoting this part of source 9.
"She posted a video of her swaying in a hoodie and baseball cap, backlit in red, to a Nelly song. In another, soundtracked by the trap hit “What’s Poppin,” she blows puffs of smoke from a joint toward the camera. “I’m gonna get you high today,” she riffs in a third. In one clip, Dylan sits beside her, smiling widely: “You ever just look at somebody,” she mouths along to the meme, “and think to yourself, ‘this motherfucker is going to be the reason I go to jail?’ "
It is CLEARLY stated that the video of her smoking Marijuana and blowing it toward the camera is a different video than the one of her and her child. She is telling the audience shes going to get them high, not her child. Furthermore, if you watch the videos provided in source 10, you see that she is NOT smoking Marijuana in the aforementioned "motherfucker" video, and her son is NOT present in the frozen song parody video.
Shameful thing to write so carelessly. This is someone who doesn't know where their child is. This is someone who already had to take people to court for defamation about all of this. Do better. 216.121.177.33 (talk) 13:53, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @PetSematary182 expected a little more from you to be honest, seeing that you added the information about the defamation case, why leave defamatory and easily disprovable statements in the article? 216.121.177.33 (talk) 13:59, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- @PetSematary182 you should elaborate on your choice to leave libel about a mother who's child is missing in this article. 216.121.177.33 (talk) 05:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- PetSematary182 was blocked in February 13, 2023, I don't think its possible for them to elaborate. Better to just forget about it. Bonus Person (talk) 21:46, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- @PetSematary182 you should elaborate on your choice to leave libel about a mother who's child is missing in this article. 216.121.177.33 (talk) 05:23, 9 June 2024 (UTC)