Talk:Dmitry Peskov

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Joreberg in topic "Demilitarisation" "large complete"

What?

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A half of page on the Russian spokesman? Arrived after reading this article to find out more;

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40635263

Oh well, I am thinking that too many potential contributors have been run-off by community sticklers. Please excuse the opinion.--Wikipietime (talk) 17:21, 17 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

For starters, how would this fit in?

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday that Veselnitskaya did not represent the Russian government, ...."

https://sputniknews.com/politics/201707151055565808-trump-campaign-russia/ --Wikipietime (talk) 17:27, 17 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

I know that wikipedia is not a newspaper but encyclopedic in nature. But, when will someone ever go back and add the details or will they be erased from the encyclopedia of the future, wikipedia?--Wikipietime (talk) 17:29, 17 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

To add to article

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To add to this article: in March 2022 Peskov denied that the Russian armed forces had struck any civilian targets in its 2022 invasion of Ukraine. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 03:34, 23 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Added reference to this claim in his interview on PBS News Hour from March 27, 2022.Mavigogun (talk) 02:09, 29 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

It should be pointed out that Peskov is a consistent, blatant liar

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This article refers to many statements from Peskov, without explicitly pointing out that most of those statements are untrue. A person who reads this article risks being stuffed with propaganda lies. It is not a goal for Wikipedia to spread lies. At the very minimum, a warning should be given, e.g. by pointing out what the historian Timothy Snyder has said about him:

If a Russian spokesman (e.g. Dmitri Peskov) must be cited, it must be mentioned that this specific figure has lied about every aspect of this war since it began.  This is context.  Readers picking up the story in the middle need to know such background.

Some hints about lies are given in the text, but these could have been clearer, e.g. by adding "contrary to evidence" next to claims about Russia "not" attacking civilians.

https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-nova-kakhovka-dam-in-ukraine Joreberg (talk) 19:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

"Demilitarisation" "large complete"

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"Demilitarisation" of Ukraine has been one of the main stated goals for Russia.

On 17 June 2023, Peskov said that "demilitarisation" of Ukraine was "largely complete", since Ukraine has few original (Soviet) weapons left and has mostly turned into using Western weapons. https://news.yahoo.com/kremlin-decides-goal-demilitarise-ukraine-194912196.html Joreberg (talk) 20:58, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

I do not think every silly comment needs to be included in the biography, therefore it is probably also necessary to trim the career section. Mellk (talk) 08:39, 20 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
When the press spokesperson for the Russian President says that one major goal for the Russian warfare against Ukraine was "largely complete", this sounds to me like much more than just a "silly comment". This sounds as a very significant statement that destroys much of the reason for Russia to attack Ukraine.
Peskov is well known to be a serial liar. It is strange that this is not pointed out anywhere in the article about him. As long as this is not pointed out, it is important to keep his silly statements so that readers of this article can read between the lines. One solution would be to refer to one of the many who have criticised his stream of lies.
It would have been strange if the article about Hitler didn't say that Hitler was a dictator. It is strange that the article about Peskov doesn't say that he is a serial liar. Joreberg (talk) 14:29, 22 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
First, reliable sources must say he is a serial liar, and then we will happily include it to the article. Ymblanter (talk) 02:55, 23 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • The tragedy is that these lies aren't meant to be believed. What they're meant to do is they're meant to convince Russians that there is no such thing as the truth and that everybody's as bad as the other.
  • Dmitri Peskov has served as Vladimir Putin’s spokesperson since 2008. In this capacity, he has played a key role in propaganda and disinformation campaigns to cover up the Kremlin’s links to the 2006 polonium poisoning of former Russian intelligence officer Alexander Litvinenko, the 2018 Novichok poisoning of former Russian military intelligence officer Sergei Skirpal and his daughter Yulia, and the 2020 Novichok poisoning of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny. In all these cases, official and independent sources have debunked the Kremlin’s disinformation and established the Kremlin’s direct responsibility. Serving Putin has been lucrative for Peskov, and despite being a civil servant for his entire career, he and his family are now multimillionaires.
  • Before Putin launched his unprovoked and brutal war of choice against Ukraine, Peskov repeatedly denied Russia had any intentions to invade its neighbor. He falsely asserted that Russia did not pose a threat to Ukraine, that Russia had never attacked any other nation, and that Russia would be the “last country in Europe” to think about starting a war. Attempting to discredit Western media reports that exposed the Kremlin’s invasion preparations, Peskov called them “provocations,” an “unfounded fomenting of tension,” “Western hysteria,” “irresponsible fakes,” and “maniacal information insanity.” Russia’s war in Ukraine validated the media reports and undermined Peskov’s credibility.
  • Peskov has been one of the key implementers of the Kremlin’s standard disinformation playbook of denial, lies, and obfuscation.
  • If a Russian spokesman (e.g. Dmitri Peskov) must be cited, it must be mentioned that this specific figure has lied about every aspect of this war since it began. This is context. Readers picking up the story in the middle need to know such background.
Joreberg (talk) 20:01, 23 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
I am sorry but this starts looking like WP:SOAPBOXING. Ymblanter (talk) 02:57, 24 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it is a clear case of soapboxing when it is not allowed to quote any of the many credible sources who point out and prove that the soapboxer Peskov is mostly telling lies. Joreberg (talk) 19:00, 24 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

"Our presidential election is not really democracy"

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6 August 2023 he pointed out that "Our presidential election is not really democracy, it is costly bureaucracy. Mr. Putin will be re-elected next year with more than 90 percent of the vote." https://news.yahoo.com/putins-administration-claims-more-90-143222070.html

Then nothing more was heard from him the next two weeks, and we are still waiting... Joreberg (talk) 14:15, 22 August 2023 (UTC)Reply