Talk:Dodge Magnum

Linking discussion boards?

Does Wikipedia have some sort of a policy against linking to discussion boards? I think the link to lxforums is certainly warranted on this page, unless it violates some sort of policy explicitely.--Ktwombley 14:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Linking to disussion forums is frowned upon but as far as I know there is no explicity policy prohibiting it. Regards, Signature^brendelHAPPY HOLIDAYS 22:43, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, linking to forums is not allowed per WP policy. --ApolloBoy 04:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Would it be against policy to link against the main page though? LXForums is a great platform for LX owners.24.153.127.77 12:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The Magnum became available with all-wheel drive in 2005 on SXT and RT models. The AWD SXT and the RT use a Mercedes-Benz-derived 5-speed automatic transmission, while all other models use a four-speed automatic. - this is not true. The RT and SRT-8's also use the Mercedes 5 speed. 24.153.127.77 12:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

European Chrysler 300C Touring

I inserted the following into Karrmann's talk page: "You write the current European Chrysler 300C Touring will become a Dodge Magnum (like in the North American market). Where did you get that info? True, DaimlerChrysler is trying to introduce the Dodge brand in Europe (as can be seen easily on the Geneva motor show which is currently on). But this rebranding would surprise me endlessly because the European Chrysler 300C Touring has been successfully positioned ex aequo or even above the 300C Sedan. "Downgrading" it to a Dodge makes little sense." -- Berndf 13:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Large/Full-Size Station Wagon?

I dislike the classification of the Dodge Magnum as a large or full-size station wagon. The Environmental Protection Agency classifies the Magnum as a sport utility vehicle becuase it has all wheel drive as an option. However, suppose one were to consider it a station wagon. The EPA classifies wagons as small, medium, or large based on the sum of passenger volume and cargo space behind the second row seats. By this system a small wagon has a total volume of less than 140 cubic feet and a large wagon has at least 160 cubic feet with medium wagons having a total volume between these two values. The passenger space of the Dodge Magnum is 105 cubic feet and the cargo space behind the second row is 27 cubic feet, and so it has a total volume of 132 cubic feet. Thus the Magnum should be classified as a small station wagon. For comparison the 1991-1996 Buick Roadmaster Estate/Chevrolet Caprice Estate/Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser had a passenger volume of 115 cubic feet and the cargo space behind the second row was 55 cubic feet, and so had a total volume of 170 cubic feet. Although the Magnum has significantly less passenger space because it has 5 inches shoulder room (fore and aft) than these last examples of large station wagons, where it truly falls short is in the cargo area which is compromised by a sharply downwardly sloping roof yielding a cargo volume behind the second row half of what was typical in most large station wagons. Inspecting the Dodge Magnum alongside a Buick Roadmaster Estate will make it evident to most why calling Magnum a large or full-size station wagon is extremely misleading.--Sadowski (talk) 15:34, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I came here to say essentially the same thing, Sadowski. The Dodge Magnum, while certainly a nice looking wagon, is no full-sized vehicle. I've owned full-sized Dodge station wagons, a 1971 Dodge Polara for instance, and the Magnum just doesn't cut it. In fact, I don't think any American car manufacturer actually makes any kind of full-sized car anymore. Just as over at the Wikipedia page for the new Dodge Charger, those people who write that page want to persist in calling it full-sized. Clearly it isn't, but I've stopped beating my brains against the wall trying to convince them of that fact. What is it with these Dodge fans who want to rewrite the definitions to words already defined? HaarFager (talk) 11:29, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Well, you both are wrong.

Dodge Magnum 2005 - 2008 is not a station wagon because of its "sharply downwardly sloping roof", although one could contest classifying it as an SUV because it was built on a unibody platform (typical for a passenger car) as opposed to body-on-frame platform (typical for trucks). It would be more appropriate to call it a crossover SUV, but the term "crossover" is relatively new so it is rarely used these days in reference to older vehicles.

Because of its sloping roof, it would be inadequate to determine its size class using EPA threshold capacities for station wagons. It would lead to such absurdity as your conclusion that Dodge Magnum 2005 - 2008 is "a small wagon" (or even a mid-size wagon, if one used the correct threshold of 130 cu.ft. per EPA classification). That would be grossly misleading, and on two points. Dodge Magnum 2005 - 2008 is definitely a large car.

Its sedan "sister" Dodge Charger 2006 - 2010 has a passenger volume of 104 cu. ft. and cargo volume of 16.2 cu. ft. thus bringing its interior volume to 120.2 cu. ft. Thus, according to EPA classification, it is a large sedan. 172.88.197.74 (talk) 10:11, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

That's some nice original research you've done there. Unfortunately, any classification on Wikipedia has to be verifiable, and the majority of sources say "wagon". Even Dodge's own website called it a "large sport wagon". I will concede that the Magnum has been called a "4-door shooting brake" by multiple sources as shown at Shooting brake, but between Dodge, Edmunds, cars.com, and Car & Driver, "wagon" is the high-level classification to go with. Take out "station" if you don't like the connotation of it. --Vossanova ^o< 16:17, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

You are wrong in your claim that "classification on Wikipedia has to be verifiable". For one, "verifiability" guideline does not apply to Talk pages. Second, there is no "original research" in my post, just some well-known facts and opinions. Also, EPA size classification does not have class "wagon" but "station wagon" - see Search by EPA Size Class. And how some (but not all - for instance, see 2005 Dodge Magnum) sources or popular opinion classify Doge Magnum neither decides how it should be classified nor does it validate any made-up classification like yours "wagon".

There is no reason to assume that "sports wagon" is the same as "wagon" or "station wagon" which Magnum 2005 - 2008 is not. Never mind that manufacturer's sales brochure for Dodge Magnum 2005 does not have even one occurrence of word "wagon", and its DMV registration shows body style listed as SV, meaning SportsVan (Dodge) (see Body Type Model and Body Type Codes).

The US Department of Energy lists Dodge Magnum 2005 as an SUV (see Fuel Economy of 2005 Sport Utility Vehicle).

So, what is your authority to decide that Dodge Magnum 2005 - 2008 is a "wagon"? 172.88.197.74 (talk) 06:26, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

wagon or 4-door shooting brake?

I would call it a station wagon styled as a 4-door shooting brake. The visual impression of the 425hp SRT8 is overwhelmingly evocative of the classic custom-built European shooting brakes, but of course those are all essentially high-performance 2-door station wagons... the lord and his gameskeeper up front, guns and dogs in back. It may be interesting to consider the etymology of "Station Wagon" when contemplating this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.27.178.252 (talk) 17:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

New speedometer

Where can I have changed my Dodge Magnum (2,7L, year 2005)speedometer from Mph to Kph included the trip? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.150.71.6 (talk) 05:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

total american sales

I am deleting the bit about total american sales. the figures quoted are actually the sales numbers only for December of the respective years. whoever added that didn't properly read his own citation. 24.111.211.207 (talk) 05:59, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

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