Talk:Don Cherry (trumpeter)

Son

The link to Don Cherry's son "David Cherry" links to the artist, David A. Cherry. Is this the same person? I know that the artist has a sister C. J. Cherryh who is a science fiction and fantasy writer. I have no facts at hand, but I have never heard David or Carolyn mention a brother named "Eagle Eye." William Alan Ritch 04:58, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

I am now pretty sure they are not the same since I followed the biography link which had a picture of "Don Cherry." He and David Cherry, the artist are of two different races. Unless the artist is adopted I don't think that they are related. I will change the link to "David Cherry (musician)". William Alan Ritch —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 05:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

External links

At first sight, the external link http://www.jazzinstitut.de/Jazzindex/index-cherry-don.htm may appear to be in German, but scrolling down shows that the biography is in English, too, while the bibliography is entirely in English. Not all items listed in the bibliography are English publications, nevertheless I think that the link is useful for English readers. --BNutzer 06:10, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Instruments

Don Cherry is listed on this page as playing trumpet, but he did his most important work on pocket trumpet and cornet. I think that this should be noted somewhere. -- ET1985 03:50, 27 August 2007

The paragraph now reads: "Even though he is mostly associated with the pocket trumpet, the majority of his recordings are on the standard cornet. He has no known recordings on the standard trumpet." This does not make sense. 62.198.65.139 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:13, 28 August 2011 (UTC).

I'm wondering what is the source for Cherry playing cornet, but not trumpet. In a 1984 Cadence interview (published 1993) Cherry uses the word "trumpet" regarding the instrument he plays, but never once mentions "cornet." In the All Music Guide to Jazz, it describes him as a trumpet player (along with flugelhorn) but specifies that the "pocket trumpet" is actually a pocket cornet. (This would seem to agree with one of the references, about pocket cornets.) Other sources mention Cherry playing trumpet, or "pocket trumpet". -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:30, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

I've re-written the section, using sources. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 20:21, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

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Trilok Gurtu played with Don Cherry and dedicated "Genapati" with Neneh Cherry to him

Neneh Cherry plays with Trilok Gurtu on "Ganapati" on his "Khatak" album from 1998

From: http://www.trilokgurtu.net/biography.htm : Trilok Gurtu was born (...) in Bombay, India(...). He began to play practically from infancy at the age of six. Eventually Trilok traveled to Europe, joining up with trumpeter Don Cherry (father of Neneh and Eagle Eye) for two years (...).

This was in the seventies: From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trilok_Gurtu In the 1970s he played with Charlie Mariano, John Tchicai, Terje Rypdal, and Don Cherry.

From http://www.trilokgurtu.net/new_release.htm : "Ganapati" recorded in 1998 from "Kathak" Mintaka Recordings The Kathak CD features Trilok in the company of his band at the time, The Glimpse. Ganapati features the voice of Neneh Cherry and is dedicated to the memory of her stepfather, the great innovative Jazz man, Don Cherry, who had been instrumental in bringing Trilok to the West. (...) "Neneh was almost in tears as she sang”.

Lots of LOVE from Robin Timmers robintimmers@gmail.com http://robin-timmers.blogspot.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robintimmers (talk • contribs) 23:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Article title

Does anyone disagree with me renaming the article to "Don Cherry (musician)" from "Don Cherry (jazz)"?

--YUL89YYZ (talk) 19:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, to be fair, one of the other Don Cherrys was involved in music too. So better just to let the Don Cherry disambiguation page take the strain and keep the underlying titles? AllyD (talk) 22:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree with giving this article a disambiguation slug at all. This Don Cherry is unarguably more significant than the clownish hockey impressario; I'd suggest calling this simply "Don Cherry", and the other one "Don Cherry (hockey)". How are such things determined? Steambadger (talk) 04:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

No argument Grapes is pretty buffoonish, but I would suspect that he's a more prominent public figure than his pocket-trumpet playing namesake; and, as such, that he would be the more logical default choice. But I don't see what's wrong with having both "Don Cherry (hockey)" AND "Don Cherry (musician)".Vonbontee (talk) 04:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: article moved as proposed Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 04:29, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

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Don Cherry (musician) → Don Cherry (trumpeter) – The present title doesn't adequately distinguish the subject from another musician of the same name, whose article is currently at Don Cherry (singer and golfer). The "jazz Don Cherry" played some other instruments as well but the trumpet was most prominent,[1] so this appears to be a good disambiguator. Once the incoming links are fixed I recommend redirecting the present title to Don Cherry (disambiguation).--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:05, 16 October 2013 (UTC) Cúchullain ^t/c 15:05, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

• Support per nom. It shouldn't affect anything here, but I've proposed moving the other article as well. --BDD (talk) 18:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
• Support to reduce ambiguity. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 18:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
• Comment, verging on oppose This article has already been moved once, from "Don Cherry (jazz)" in December 2011, and a significant proportion of the article links still point there. It is becoming rather nomadic and I think strong grounds need to be established for a best-possible name before yet another renaming. I'm not so sure the previous name wasn't the best sustainable to distinguish from others of the same name; "trumpeter" is at best the most common of the descriptions of what he did. (Personally I would also reroute "Don Cherry" to the dab page rather than defaulting to some ice hockey commentator but I appreciate this may look a bit different in North America.) AllyD (talk) 19:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

I think Don Cherry (jazz) could also be suitable; I chose (trumpeter) per WP:NCDAB as it describes the "generic class that includes the topic" (ie, trumpeters) as opposed to just the "subject or context to which the topic applies" (jazz). It also better disambiguates the article from the one on the other musician named Don Cherry, who's at "(singer...)"; one could be a singer of jazz. But either way, the move needs to happen as the present title doesn't distinguish this article from the other one.--Cúchullain ^t/c 19:52, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

• Support - don't see the problem with (jazz) and (musician) still being there as redirects. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:56, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

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