Talk:Donald Trump Supreme Court candidates

Question

Are people thinking that either this article or the Clinton article will be deleted depending on who loses the election? Orser67 (talk) 23:02, 20 October 2016 (UTC)

Not necessarily. After all, it is a campaign issue, and Trump, at least, has gone far beyond the norm in actually naming names for potential nominees. bd2412 T 15:13, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

This: "On February 23, 2016, the 11 Republican members of the Senate Judiciary Committee signed a letter to Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell stating their intention to withhold consent on any nominee made by President Obama, and that no hearings would occur until after January 20, 2017, when Donald Trump takes office" sounds like Donald was already going to be president as of Feb 23, 2016. It would benefit from a rewrite. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.146.72 (talk) 03:24, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

Sources

Why are we sourcing the names of the candidates themselves from news articles which only present them in passing and incompletely (the article for the second batch of candidates fails to include Gorsuch at all), when we could simply source the names from the announcements on Trump's website? Surely for something like this Trump's website is in fact a better source (because it is a primary source) than a news account which is a secondary source (and which may not actually present all of the relevant data). 2601:883:8202:3530:F01D:B958:2E8C:A622 (talk) 17:56, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia prefers to use secondary source documents over primary source documents, as the secondary sources will sort out what is important in the primary sources. bd2412 T 18:44, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

I do have to challenge Ted Cruz and Peter Thiel for the reason that they are not on the list of 21 nominees given by the Trump Campaign.Theoallen1 (talk) 02:26, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

If reliable sources exist for these individuals being potential Trump nominees, their absence from a list to which no one is legally bound is no reason to exclude them. bd2412 T 02:44, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

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Napolitano

Speculation about the nomination of Andrew Napolitano was added to the article, and I reverted, because this appears to be self-promotion, whereas the whole article is based on officially-announced potential nominees. Opinions welcome. — JFG ^talk 17:27, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Disagree in principle. The article itself claims that it is based on the lists Trump released OR names mentioned in the media as likely. Other similar articles for other presidents have had to rely basically entirely on "media speculation," because previous presidents have not released lists of potential nominees, so it would be inconsistent to forswear all "media speculation" in this article. On the other hand, Trump did release lists of potential nominees (and even committed to sticking to his lists at least for the first vacancy), but he, perhaps more so than many of his predecessors, seems to have a predilection for announcing a position or policy and then changing his mind, so it would probably be unreasonable to insist on limiting the article to his own lists. I do think the article should make clear who appeared on which lists. But I also think that "media speculation" is completely appropriate, although I'm not a fan of "self-promotion." Also, when I asked months ago why the article did not cite directly to the lists released by the campaign, I was told that Wikipedia preferred news sources to the candidate's own announcements, which would seem to suggest that this article is not in principle particularly beholden to Trump's "officially-announced potential nominees" as such, until those names are filtered through the media. Those are my thoughts. 107.145.77.108 (talk) 23:55, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

Thapar

Should we move him into the group of Circuit Court judges now since he's been confirmed to the Sixth Circuit? That would seem to make the most sense. Then we would need to indicate in some way that he was a District Judge at the time that Trump originally named him as a possible Supreme Court candidate before receiving a nomination to the Sixth Circuit. Thoughts? LacrimosaDiesIlla (talk) 19:03, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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Reorganization

With 4 list of candidates (3 Trump lists plus Paul Clement who is rumored to be in the mix) the current layout really doesn't work. Dividing according to the lists (First, Second, Third and Rumored) is much more logical compared to the current scheme. Also consideration should be given to taking out Clement's name altogether. Latex-yow (talk) 02:34, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

• We need to maintain structural consistency with other lists in the series (Barack Obama Supreme Court candidates, George W. Bush Supreme Court candidates, Bill Clinton Supreme Court candidates, etc.). bd2412 T 02:41, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
  • I am not sure structural consistency is warranted given how different Trump is on this issue compared to his predecessors. He publicized his list(s) of candidates before getting elected and now before there is even a vacancy. Latex-yow (talk) 02:51, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

The New Yorker: Senate Democrats Investigate a New Allegation of Sexual Misconduct, from Brett Kavanaugh’s College Years

• Farrow, Ronan; Mayer, Jane (September 23, 2018), "Senate Democrats Investigate a New Allegation of Sexual Misconduct, from Brett Kavanaugh's College Years", The New Yorker, retrieved September 24, 2018

Sagecandor (talk) 00:55, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

The † symbol

Hey. Quick little observation. In most cases the "†" symbol usually represents that an individual has died. This may not be the most suitable way to indicate the potential candidates are on a particular list or other. Could this symbol be switched to something else? doktorb _words^deeds 07:31, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Vague phrase: "benefit the right"

I believe the phrase "benefit the right" is vague in the following sentence found on the first paragraph:

However, it is known that the Federalist Society has a history of recommending conservative Supreme Court nominees to Senate members that will benefit the right.

What does "the right" mean in this context? I suggest wikilinking the phrase to one of the following as appropriate:

• Right-wing politics
• Conservatism in the United States
• Traditionalist conservatism in the United States
• Republican Party

Perhpaps changing the phrasing in the text itself to clarify that context would also be helpful. Open to suggestions. For now I have marked the phrase as " ". Please address.

Kvwiki1234 (talk) 20:20, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Probably true but it doesn't belong as the second sentence of the article. Removed. Ivar the Boneful (talk) 04:04, 27 September 2020 (UTC)