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Dong Fuxiang
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"1908 - and the fine new houses erected by his followers who had made fortunes out 12 east. In 1911 the Tung clan, his grandson Tung Kung and his nephew Tung Wen directed by his widow Tung Chao-shih, took up arms on the monarchist side and participated in the nearly successful counter-offensive of the Kansu armies."
06:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
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1908 - and the fine new houses erected by his followers who had made fortunes out 12 east. In 1911 the Tung clan, his grandson Tung Kung and his nephew Tung Wen directed by his widow Tung Chao-shih, took up arms on the monarchist ...
References
- ^ Chinese Republican Studies Newsletter, Volumes 5-7. Contributor University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Center for Asian Studies. 1979. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help); horizontal tab character in|others=at position 12 (help)CS1 maint: others (link) - ^ Chinese Republican Studies Newsletter, Volumes 1-7. Contributors University of Connecticut. Dept. of History, Denison University. Dept. of History, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Center for Asian Studies. Center for Asian Studies, University of Illinois. 1975. p. 171. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
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Seeking consensus to use Wuwei Rear Troop as official name
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I have no objection to names like Muslim Kansu Braves for Dong Fuxiang Army before they came to Peking, but during the Boxer Rebellion times, Dong's army was given a new name and grouped under the command of Wuwei Troop, with Ronglu as Dong's superior commander. We need to use the official name at that time, to avoid any confusion. Arilang talk 01:48, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
Yong(Chinese:勇 English:Braves) was the official name of the local militia, exactly what Muslim Kansu Braves were. Only after they were official recruited into the Imperial Army as the Wuwei Rear Troop, they could then enjoyed the full benefit of the Imperial Army system, including pay and rations. After that, the name was changed changed into Bing (Chinese:兵 English:soldiers), and they were no longer Yong(Chinese:勇 English:Braves), so the name Muslim Kansu Braves is no longer accurate after their recruitment. Wikipedia should not use any name knowing it is an error. Arilang talk 14:22, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Dong Fuxiang's religion
editPage 109 of this book indicates that he was in fact not muslim, but commanded muslim troops. The consular officer who wrote the book said that he though dong was a muslim but was told directly that he was a non muslim han chinese who commanded muslim soldiers.
Mendsetting (talk) 03:39, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
Familiar strangers by jonathan neaman lipman says that dong was definitely non muslim and explains the mistake westerners made-
Mendsetting (talk) 04:44, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
References
- ^ Travels Of A Consular Officer In North-West China. CUP Archive. p. 109. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Lipman, Jonathan Neaman (1998). Familiar strangers: a history of Muslims in Northwest China. University of Washington Press. p. 156. ISBN 0295800550. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
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anti foreign activites before the outbreak of the boxer rebellion
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Seyeednu (talk) 23:35, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
References
- ^ "THE DEFENCE OF 'PEKING. PREPARING TO RESIST EXPEDITION". THE WEST AUSTRALIAN. London. June 15. p. 5. Retrieved 1 April 2013.
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Boxer rebellion
editA Horribly innacurate account of dong fuxiang's role in the boxer war- his troops never went near ketteler, and the russians in real life screwed up badly when trying to enter beijing, getting over two dozen of themselves killed and over a hundred wounded, while this book portrays the allies as facing virtually no resistance
Rajmaan (talk) 04:31, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
http://books.google.com/books?id=lAxresT12ogC&pg=PA207#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=fjEQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA17#v=onepage&q&f=false
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The I. G. in Peking: Letters of Robert Hart, Chinese Maritime Customs, 1868-1907
http://books.google.com/books?id=7ZybVIprRUMC&pg=PA1271#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=7ZybVIprRUMC&pg=PA1196#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=7ZybVIprRUMC&pg=PA1199#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan (talk) 08:32, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
References
- ^ Xiang, Lanxin (2003). The Origins of the Boxer War: A Multinational Study (illustrated ed.). Psychology Press. p. 207. ISBN 0700715630. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Dix, Charles Cabry (1905). The World's Navies in the Boxer Rebellion (China 1900). Digby, Long & Company. p. 17. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Daugherty III, Leo J. (2009). The Marine Corps and the State Department: Enduring Partners in United States Foreign Policy, 1798-2007. McFarland. p. 44. ISBN 078645301X. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Hart, Robert; Campbell, James Duncan (1975). Fairbank, John King; Bruner, Katherine Frost; Matheson, Elizabeth MacLeod (eds.). The I. G. in Peking: Letters of Robert Hart, Chinese Maritime Customs, 1868-1907. Harvard University Press. p. 1271. ISBN 0674443209. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Hart, Robert; Campbell, James Duncan (1975). Fairbank, John King; Bruner, Katherine Frost; Matheson, Elizabeth MacLeod (eds.). The I. G. in Peking: Letters of Robert Hart, Chinese Maritime Customs, 1868-1907. Harvard University Press. p. 1196. ISBN 0674443209. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Hart, Robert; Campbell, James Duncan (1975). Fairbank, John King; Bruner, Katherine Frost; Matheson, Elizabeth MacLeod (eds.). The I. G. in Peking: Letters of Robert Hart, Chinese Maritime Customs, 1868-1907. Harvard University Press. p. 1199. ISBN 0674443209. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
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Killing of sugiyama akira
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exile
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Rajmaan (talk) 22:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
References
- ^ Beals, Zephaniah Charles (1901). China and the Boxers: A short history of the Boxer outbreak, with two chapters on the sufferings of missionaries and a closing one on the outlook. M.E. Munson. p. 73. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ The Boxer Rising: A History of the Boxer Trouble in China. Reprinted from the "Shanghai Mercury." (reprint ed.). Shanghai mercury, limited. 1900. p. 46. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ The Boxer Rising: A History of the Boxer Trouble in China (2, reprint ed.). Shanghai Mercury. 1901. p. 59. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Kelly, John S. (1963). A forgotten conference: the negotiations at Peking, 1900-1901. Librairie Droz. p. 31. ISBN 2600039996. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Boyd, Julia (2012). A Dance with the Dragon: The Vanished World of Peking's Foreign Colony (illustrated ed.). I.B.Tauris. p. 4. ISBN 1780760523. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Smith, Shirley Ann (2012). Imperial Designs: Italians in China 1900–1947. The Fairleigh Dickinson University Press Series in Italian Studies. Lexington Books. p. 18. ISBN 1611475023. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
{{cite book}}: Invalid|ref=harv(help) - ^ Clements, Paul Henry (1915). The Boxer Rebellion: A Political and Diplomatic Review. Columbia University. p. 201. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
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Play set in beijing during the boxer rebellion
edithttp://books.google.com/books?id=nkIhzyBPV4UC&pg=PA135#v=onepage&q&f=false
Rajmaan (talk) 22:48, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
References
- ^ Yao, Ke (1970). The Malice of Empire. University of California Press. p. 135. ISBN 0520015606. Retrieved 24 April 2014.
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