Talk:Doomsday Blue

Whole encyclopaedic content

@Nascar9919 reverted an entry that briefly specified misconceptions around a phrase used in the song, namely "Avada Kedavra". Their reasoning was that the passage was "not particularly important to [the] article". I find this reasoning suspect, primarily because information does not come with a relevance requirement - only a requirement that it be linked in some way to the article. Since the linguistics community has long debated the source of "Abracadabra", the term upon which the fictional "Avada Kedavra" is based, there is a significant amount of information on the subject - thus it is appropriate to link this information and present it wherever a related subject is mentioned.

There is also the manner in which the information is initially presented. The passage "The song's lyrics feature numerous 'spells', including the incantation 'Avada Kedavra', a phrase popularised by the Harry Potter franchise..." presents the phrase as genuine, real, and uncontroversially accepted as legitimate. In fact, it is anything but - hence, the passage could be construed as knowingly presenting false information. Since this is not expanded on within the linked article (being "Magic in Harry Potter"), a reader may never realise that the phrase is entirely fictional. This is particularly important for younger readers, or readers who speak English as a second language or who have translated the article.

I strongly advocate for the restoration of at least some mention that the phrase is related to a linguistics controversy, otherwise it can be considered incomplete encyclopaedic content. It is not necessarily up to editors what information is "relevant" to an article, only that it is related in some way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by R0tekatze (talk • contribs) 14:00, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Nascar9919 (talk · contribs) 06:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Arconning (talk · contribs) 06:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this, comments will probably be finished in the next 72 hours! Love this song, CROWN THE WITCH!! Arconning (talk) 06:42, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! I'll probably get to your comments in a few hours. It's around midnight here and I probably need to head to bed... haha. Cheers, and carpe diem! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 07:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

@Nascar9919 Here are my comments! Hope they can be addressed :) Arconning (talk) 07:34, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

@Nascar9919 Just waiting on earwig, will get back to you and hopefully pass! Arconning (talk) 08:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Prose and MoS

• Use Template:Use Hiberno-English since the subject of the topic is from Ireland.

Infobox and lead

• "an electro-metal breakdown",, guessing this is an incomplete quote which is permissible under Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Typographic conformity.
• 13 October 2023, add comma at the end.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• polarizing, to polarising.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• remarking the song as more unique, who remarked that the song was more unique.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Irish society, add comma at the end.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Irish Eurovision entries, hyperlink to Ireland in the Eurovision Song Contest.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• national culture;, omit semicolon as it's not applicable.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• has drew, replace as it's grammatically incorrect. Example for replacement could be has enjoyed or just drew.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Background and composition

• Sam Matlock and Tylr Rydr., I suggest adding an Oxford comma. Put it after Matlock.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• deception and, pop and jazz, same here.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Music video and promotion

• released on 8 March 2024, add comma at the end.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• "very dark",, remove comma
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• colors, colours.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• signaling, signalling.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• toxic relationship and, add comma at the end.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Pre-Party ES 2024 on 30 March., replace period/full stop with a comma.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Critical reception

• Irish Eurovision entrants., wikilink to Ireland in the Eurovision Song Contest.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Ireland's 2022 entrant, wikilink to Ireland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2022.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• remembered for a long time"., to Ireland's pre-Christian heritage"., put the period inside the quotation marks.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• 2008 Irish Eurovision entrant, wikilink to Ireland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008.
  • Not done. Already linked in "2008". Let me know if this satisfies things. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

  Decided to tweak it. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:03, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

• over 2,000 people signed, over 2,000 people had signed.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Eurovision, on the basis of, remove comma.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• of [Irish] national culture"., put period/full stop inside.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• also heavily criticized, also heavily criticised.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• intents writing, intentions writing.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• criticized the Catholic Church, criticised the Catholic Church.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Eurovision Song Contest

• 26 January 2024, add comma at the end.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• for Eurovision Song Contest 2024., for the Eurovision Song Contest 2024.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• The edition, This edition.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• which each group, with each group.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• 11 January 2024, add comma at the end.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Ailsha with "Go Tobann"., add comma after Ailsha. Don't need to put the period within the quotes as it is not part of the original title.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Malmö, Sweden, wikilink to Malmö.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• 7 and 9 May, add comma at the end.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• For its Eurovision performance, "it" referring to whom or what? Specify.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Israel's participation, wikilink it entirely instead of the competitor.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• The song was performed in 10th,, The song was performed tenth,
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• I don't even care any more., combine any and more to form anymore, per the original quote.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• is – fuck the EBU., replace the dash with a period/full stop, per the original quote.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
• Fuck them.", put period outside the quotation marks since it's an incomplete quote. Original quotation is The EBU is not what the Eurovision is. Fuck the EBU, I don’t even care anymore. Fuck them. Refer to this regarding to this bullet and the former two bullets.
  •  Done. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

  @Arconning: Believe I have addressed all comments. Hope this satisfies all things. Cheers, mate! Nascar9919 (he/him • t • c) 08:02, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Track listing, Charts, and Release history

• No issues on prose or MoS. Pass.

Images

• Images have proper licenses and are relevant to the article.

Refs

• Reference 4, if there aren't any other available sources use a primary references template. I suggest using Kiribati at the 2020 Summer Olympics as a guide when using this template.
• References 51 and 52, same as reference 4 guideline.

Spotchecks

• Reference 2 is okay, per Wikipedia:WikiProject Eurovision/Sources.
• Reference 33 is so-so, per Wikipedia:WikiProject Eurovision/Sources. Conditional pass.
• Reference 38 is so-so, per Wikipedia:WikiProject Eurovision/Sources. Conditional pass.
• Earwig is not working right now, please wait for check.
  • Earwig shows up nothing.
• Manual check, everything seems alright for now.

Misc

• No ongoing edit war, broad and focus on the subject of the article, no other issues present.

Good Article review progress box

Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed