Talk:Doping in the United States

I am editing this page as a part of a project for class. Please be aware that I am not proficient in Wikipedia editing, however it was suggested that I edit this page rather than create my own page on a very similar topic. Therefore I added the "Drug Testing" sections as well as added a "NHL" section because these were not previously there. Lhochhauser (talk) 03:47, 19 April 2016 (UTC)Lhochhauser

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Reversions and potential edit-warring, as well as bad faith deletions by Pizzig

The lead section of the article is very sparse. Valuable information from reliable sources was included in line with WP:NPOV and WP:Verifiability to buttress the lead section with notable information on the extent of the problem. Information on the magnitude of the problem belongs to the lead section, as does verifiable statements by WADA, an international organization with authority and expertise over the same. This was deleted by Pizzig, who has proceeded to abuse editors again.

You are free to contest the material in the section in good faith, but your deletions of objectively written edits supported by good sources is unsupported by any proper reason whatsoever and has been done in bad faith. MingScribe1368 (talk) 01:46, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

Consensus on the leading section

Three pertinent paragraphs were removed:

1. General doping patterns as discussed by journal studies 2. WADA's statement on US doping 3. Wade Exum's revelations

These are material to the leading section or at least deserve a paragraph of their own.

Can I have the consensus of other editors here, please? MingScribe1368 (talk) 09:35, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

The lede generally needs expansion per MOS:LEADLENGTH but your #2 is clearly WP:RECENTISM, which does not belong in a lede for a general overview of a topic of this nature. - Amigao (talk) 02:40, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

What about no. 1 and no. 3? MingScribe1368 (talk) 03:14, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Has consensus been reached as to the admissibility, relevance and reliability as to 1 and 3? @Amigao MingScribe1368 (talk) 03:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

1 should be in the article body at least since it's supported by reliable sources. CurryCity (talk) 18:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Football outside of the USA

Can we update the link “football” to read “American Football”? It’s confusing and definition is needed, especially for those outside the USA reading the page. SteadyJames (talk) 13:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

I think American football is more clear but Pizzigs reverted me. CurryCity (talk) 09:30, 17 October 2024 (UTC)