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Fritos

Should we remove the Fritos stuff from the history column? (I'm talking about the "casa de Fritos" bullcrap) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.12.69.107 (talk) 22:47, 15 January 2016 (UTC) Doritos are Taak

List of Flavors

I reinserted the list of flavors that was removed yesterday. It may be without sources, but outright deleting all that data (the vast majority of the article!) is totally inappropriate. Someone (or some people) spent a lot of time compiling all that data and it doesn't make any sense to just delete that foundation instead of building on it. -- Stereoisomer 09:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

I am deleting the list again based on WP:V. Specifically, "Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed... The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. Material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable source, which should be cited in the article."

While many of the flavors may be correct, there is no way of checking to see which ones are fake. (For example, is "Intense Anchovy" really a flavor?) The flavor list should not be added back unless reliable sources are cited. I realize that other areas of the article also need citations, but I feel that the flavor list is the most stark example of not only unverified but probably unverifiable information. -SCEhardT 13:55, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I just inserted the official list of flavors listed on the "flavor lab" on the doritos site. I didn't miss any. How can i legally cite this so it won't be deleted? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by D-scan (talk • contribs).

Is there a text-based version of the site? I tried to find a list of flavors, but the design is really, really horrible. -SCEhardT 22:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

We quickly find ourselves back in the same situation with people adding flavors that are entirely unverifiable. I have removed the ingredient list again until a source is cited. If you're not sure how to cite the source, just leave a link here on the talk page. -SCEhardT 02:36, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I found an official flavor list at FritoLay.com; I added that list to the page and referenced it. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(((Broken clamshells • Otter chirps)))} 18:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for providing a referenced list of current flavors! However, the list of past flavors was unreferenced and has been removed again. -SCEhardT 22:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

The current version of the article lists over 200 flavours across the world. Only 10 of them are sourced (to the Canadian Doritos page) and the rest are enirely unsourced, with at least some clear vandalism in there. Given that the previous section discusses the history of the brand and notable flavours as they were introduced, the article does not benefit from having a sprawlingly unreadable and possibly untrue list in addition to it, per WP:IINFO. I've cut it again. --McGeddon (talk) 16:20, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

http://kotaku.com/the-delicious-world-of-japanese-doritos-1506401118 Is this credible enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voss749 (talk • contribs) 21:22, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Toasted Corn still exists, and "corn oil" is not accurate

I just bought a bag of "Toasted Corn" Doritos, even though the article says they have been discontinued. Also, the ingredients list " corn, soybean or sunflower" oil, not just corn. I'm going to update the ingredient section, but am wondering what the deal is with "toasted corn," so leaving alone for the moment. Ktanzer (talk) 23:07, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

"Beeftin enzymes"?

What are these "beeftin enzymes" the article mentions? The reference is not only a dead link but appears to use the word "porcine" rather than "beeftin" (look at the URL). 82.113.148.68 (talk) 10:31, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

fixed. beeftin doesnt exist, the actual reference only makes the statement that they generally dont use pork derived rennet.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:33, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Food additives

while the products in europe probably list additives by number, this article needs to list the US ingredient names first, as its a US product primarily. also needs citations for the ingredients. Oh, which i just did.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Arch West

OK, can we now give him his own article, now that he is dead and is getting written up?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:42, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Which "History" is correct

A new book, Taco USA is being published, and the writer is claming that Doritos were invented at Disneyland, and the original provider of the product was Alex Foods. The Frito Company (and after the merge Frito-Lay) had a company owned restaurant (Casa de Fritos) at Disneyland, that opened in the late 50's, and the story goes that an Alex Foods sales rep told the restaurant how to not just throw old tortillas away, and instead cut them up and make chips out of them. He also states that Doritos means "little golden things".

Now, Arch West is mentioned in the book, here is small clip that brings the point home, using the Fair Use laws...

http://www.ocweekly.com/2012-04-05/food/taco-usa-how-mexican-food-conquered-america-doritos-disneyland/

>>About a year later, Arch West, marketing vice president for the new Frito-Lay Co. (the result of a merger between Fritos and H.W. Lay & Co. in 1961), passed by Casa de Fritos and noticed customers eating the chips. He asked the Morales family to mass-produce those chips. West presented his bosses with a plan to market tortilla chips for national release, with Alex Foods its makers. Frito-Lay bought all the equipment the Morales family needed to make the chips, which were to be called Doritos ("little golden things"). The snack debuted in 1966to immediate sales.<<

So can anyone add to the history of this comment... is it true, or at least partially true???? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeKelsey (talk • contribs) 02:34, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Oops, thanks Signbot ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeKelsey (talk • contribs) 02:37, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

OK, a second reference, looks like the main page needs to be re-written...

www.americasgreatestbrands.com/volume6/pdf/Doritos.pd — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeorgeKelsey (talk • contribs) 02:47, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

OK, ended up at the Book Signing of the "Taco USA" by Gustavo Arellano, he is a nationally known reporter, a professor at Cal State Fullerton, and has written multiple books, and clearly has done a lot of research to the history of "Doritos", so I think some serious proof is needed to show that Disneyland is not the origin of "Doritos". For those who are interested in the History of the Fritos Company, he addresses that in the book, but I have not looked at it in detail, or tried to find a secondary source to back his claims yet (other than Doritos). GeorgeKelsey (talk) 15:56, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Ranch, Cool Ranch, Cooler Ranch

I hope I'm not being a bit naive, but I can't figure, from simply reading this article, which came first: ranch or cool ranch? Could someone specify? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.122.120.60 (talk) 05:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

We cannot dismiss "Cooler" ranch in the later half of the 90s.

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Vandalism?

The History section states that a "John C. Dorito" invented them. This rather fishy claim is unsupported by the citation. 2602:306:CC83:FE0:456F:45F1:68F0:A7AD (talk) 01:59, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

 Fixed. Please always add new comments at the bottom of a Talk page. General Ization ^Talk 02:01, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Logo gallery

It may be worthwhile to add a gallery to this page showcasing the various logos employed by Doritos along with the years they were employed.  This could be placed in a Logos subsection of the History section, along with some detail on the history of the logo, such as factors that motivated the changes.  Just a thought.  allixpeeke (talk) 12:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Carl R. Grady Lawsuit

The citation link is dead for the 2003 date of the lawsuit. Anyways, 2003 is incorrect. According to the complaint he filed, he ate the offending Dorito in 1993 and filed suit in 1995. This is important as the Dorito he was eating would be from before the redesign. I'm not sure how to properly cite this since I found the complaint behind a paywall. The document has the id number: No. GD95-5934 CV 1995. I think most of the relevant information is available in another court opinion in the case: 789 A.2d 735 (2001). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:240:8101:C780:6DB6:D29E:97D1:4858 (talk) 13:49, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

It was 1993. I’ve just changed the source to a legal document from the appeals process that references the original 1993 lawsuit. PacificBoy 04:12, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

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Vandalism and protected

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The user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/100.2.114.22 has a user has a history of vandalism, so his claim from 2013 is without any support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YipC (talk • contribs) 01:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

The edit in question was made in May 2013 (more than 1500 edits ago!) and has long since been replaced by correct content, whether intentionally or as a result of subsequent edits. Also note that an edit made using that IP in 2018, vandalism or not, is highly unlikely to represent the same user of the IP in 2013. IP addresses generally don't work that way. General Ization ^Talk 02:03, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

Jo habla Nada Espanol

Etymology

Worth adding?

The Frito-Lay vice president said that "Doritos" means "little bits of gold" in Spanish, but that is not quite right. The diminutive of "dorado" (golden) is "doradito" and the diminutive of "oro" (gold) is "orito". In the first case Dorito is missing "ad" and in the second case it is missing the D. Dec 31, 2009. [1]

The name Doritos most likely comes from the Mexican/Spanish translations for one of the two following terms; dorar – “to brown,” doradito – “golden brown.” Doradito is the most likely origin and was the most commonly used term to describe the fried tortillas that eventually became known as Doritos. Mar 25, 2018. [2]

MBG02 (talk) 15:57, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Doritos Nacho Cheese and Flamin' Hot Have Bland Recipe Change in 2020

This has not been officially announced but in North America the Nacho Cheese and Flamin' Hot flavors had both a visible change in their makeup and a definite change in their flavor. The chips now more closely taste of corn and oil and there has been a dramatic reduction in how much "flavor powder" is visible on the chip. Less salt, probably less MSG or something. They just taste like lightly flavored and somehow a bit galling corn chips. Oily, but if you used recycled oil from making a taco shell. Confirmed all over social media but snuck into the marketplace hoping most people consume without noticing their tongue. Future sales will be affected by the most important part of a food: it's taste and aftertaste. Go ahead and delete this because obviously wiki is a tool for capitalism, but hopefully this will exist somewhere in the change log. Sincerely, a fat ex dorito buying nerd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.52.200 (talk) 15:27, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2021

Doritos were actually created by the Mexican American Morales family, through their Alex Foods Co., which made the tortillas and the taco shells used at Disneyland's Casa de Fritos, as well as other food venues at the California theme park.

From OC Weekly's Gustavo Arellano:

"One day in the early 1960s, one of the route [Alex Foods] salesman saw discarded tortillas and told the cook to make them into tortilla chips instead of just tossing them in the trash. At that point, tortilla chips weren't part of the Frito family, so the restaurant had no use in offering them as other Mexican restaurants did. The throwaway snack was a hit with guests, so Casa de Fritos put them on the menu—without the knowledge of the Frito Co." Jose Fermoso (talk) 21:45, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Doritos Edge

As part of the low carb movement, Doritos Edge was released in/near 2004. I can't find much on the internet about them. This is important information in the historicity and legacy of Doritos. Does anyone have any concrete info that can be added to this page?

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2022

Change A to B for better legibility. See A and B below: A: In 2005, Doritos sales in the United States fell by 1.7% to $595 million.

B: In 2005, sales of Doritos in the United States fell by 1.7% to $595 million. Rosedaler (talk) 07:34, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Aidan9382 _(talk) 09:36, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Flammability?

I heard somewhere that Doritos are flammable. Is this notable enough to be covered? - The  Master of  clockHedgehogsclock ^{(always up for a conversation!)} 16:38, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Doritos and paedophilia

Are you going to mention this on the page? They endorse Samantha Hudson in Spain? A known paedo who tweeted about child abuse and wanting to do such evil things to children? Letmeseehmm (talk) 13:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Samantha Hudson line is misleading

In March 2024, Doritos faced backlash for hiring transgender influencer Samantha Hudson to be a marketing ambassador. Hudson back in 2015 tweeted about doing “depraved things” to a 12 year old. Doritos ended up firing Hudson after the backlash.

After looking into it, the tweet was about wanting to do "depraved things", not that they had actually done "depraved things". They were also 15 years old at the time of that tweet, and claimed it was a joke (hugely important context). Teenagers make stupid edgy jokes all the time, it just seems they made the mistake of posting it online for it to then be dug up by people acting in bad faith and get them fired.

Anyway, my core issue w/ the line above is that it reads as if it were an admission to said acts rather than the dumb edgy joke that it was. (I'm so glad I wasn't a teenager during the peak of social media nonsense LOL) - AnonymousDoritoEnjoyer (talk) 22:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

@AnonymousDoritoEnjoyer Second. Can we at a minimum include the context that Hudson was herself a young teenager? 108.35.167.157 (talk) 16:45, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2024

Add to Category:Californian cuisine. 2600:6C50:7E00:316:B9F1:8DDB:3036:BA68 (talk) 09:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done HirowoWiki (talk | contribs) 09:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 October 2024

I think the paragraph and reference for Detos in New Zealand should be removed because it is irrelevant to Doritos. There are hundreds of brands of copycat Doritos and nothing about Detos elicits deeper understanding of Doritos nor stands out from the other competitors. The paragraph is nothing more than naked advertising for Detos; the reference it is not even a journalistic reference but just the product page on the company web site. I have quoted the paragraph and reference in full for clarity.

A company named New Zealand Dairy have made a clone of Doritos, named Detos.[6] 6 "Detos". www.newzealanddairybd.com. Retrieved June 29, 2024. 24.220.61.136 (talk) 16:53, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done This doesn't appear to be a notable clone, and it certainly isn't related to the notability of Doritos. It might be fair to include further down in a section about imitations (with a secondary source) but it definitely doesn't belong in the lede. Jamedeus (talk) 17:32, 2 October 2024 (UTC)