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References
editIt's kind of astounding that so much of this article was written without more than a single inline reference. I've done a first pass trying to regenerate references for what was written but there is plenty more that can be done. The first few sections in History treating on the first releases could use some clean up in form & content in addition to references. regardless, there are now a suitable number of references to justify removing the citation warning. -- t_kiehne (talk) 07:02, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
Untitled
editDoes this band have a website? Thanks!The previous unsigned comment was left by User:24.168.203.75
- Yes, they do... right here, though it's not up-to-date. K3V!N 02:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
IDM?
editWhat separates IDM from Techno? I've always thought of artists like Aphex Twin, Autechre, and Boards of Canada to be IDM, and bands like Download (in III and Effector) to be Techno.
What I think separates IDM from Techno is that techno is basically electronically created beat music, where IDM is techno with more emphasis on percussion and ambience and less emphasis on the synthetic sound. To me, Download is Techno in III and Effector because even though they have a relatively noticable ambient quality in parts of their songs (ex: Flight of Luminous Insects), they still sound mainly synthetic and their percussion isn't the main theme of the music like it is for Autechre and Aphex Twin. Of course, I'm using "percussion" loosely here to mean any sound with high attack and a harsh sound, as opposed to a relatively normal attack that the beats in III and Effector have.
- I would have to agree. If you check out several sites, they'll label some albums Industrial/IDM, and the ones you mentioned get Techno. I would definitely say Download is more IDM than anything. cEvin Key did come from Skinny Puppy so he has the Industrial/Post-Industrial background which comes through on his albums. Xe7al (talk) 22:54, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
I'd much rather Download be labeled as Industrial and Techno, even though Techno is so overused in today's culture enough that it's used to describe anything that isn't Heavy Metal. I don't like how some people think that IDM is the replacement term for techno so that all the stereotypes that Techno has accumulated aren't piled onto the music that we all love, though I can certainly see why you'd want to do that, if that's what you want to do.
So that's what I think--Download is more Techno than they are IDM.
Oh yeah, and I did change the IDM on The Eyes of Stanley Pain because IDM is more of a "less is more" sort of thing than "more is more", like Stanley Pain has. The complexity of those songs aren't described properly as "IDM", IMHO.
Thanks for reading, please reply with your opinions. I'm open to discussion on the subject, and though I have some strong opinions on the matter, I do everything in my power to remain open-minded to the views of others. :) K3V!N 02:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)