Talk:Dr. Seuss bibliography
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Missing book
edit---Note comment from older page ---- Oldag07 (talk) 19:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC) I think there is a book missing from this list but I don't know what it is called. I remember a book where a person (or furry somewhat human-like thing) goes out, I think looking for something, he goes through an underground complex and comes out of a hole in a tree - if I recall correctly. I remember this story so well because it was my favourite when I was very young. This must have been published in the UK before about 1988 I suppose. It had a night-time setting I think but it is not on the list. TristanDC (talk) 01:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
- This looks very like a description of (part of) I Had Trouble in Getting to Solla Sollew. I don't know if it was missing from the previous version, but it's here now, if that was indeed what you're thinking of. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.142.57.72 (talk) 00:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I remember a Dr. Seuss story--I don't know if was published as book, but it did appear in a magazine (and my grandmother cut it out and pasted all the pages into a scrapbook for me and my brothers) about the twins Tad and Tod ("as alike as two peas in a pod") one of them enjoyed looking alike, but the other did not, and attempted to differentiate himself in typical Dr. Seuss style, by ever more elaborate costumes and accessories. Matched at every attempt by his brother, he finally decides to join with him in enjoying being one of two peas in a pod. I don't know when it was published, but it would have been in the early fifties, when I was a small child, or earlier. Deakle (talk) 08:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
- Doesn't ring any bells for me (and between the Suess books my parents owned and the ones I've bought for my kids, I have a lot). However, as a twin, I'd like to know what it was. Ckruschke (talk) 15:43, 11 February 2013 (UTC)Ckruschke
Created page
editI created this page, a much more relatively organized list compared to previous attempts to make a page. it is presentable and ready to go public, but it still could use images for all the books, and a few more summaries. Oldag07 (talk) 19:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
Again, I used this title "List of Dr. Seuss books", because Dr. Seuss is the brand, not the actual writer. Oldag07 (talk) 19:53, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean. It's a pseudonym, but it's only ever a pseudonym for one person: Ted Geisel. This gets into semantics, but: Dr Seuss is Ted Geisel, so books published as "by Theo LeSieg" are also written by Dr Seuss. (Like: Clark Kent is a reporter, so Superman is also a reporter--even though he's in disguise while doing that job.) Furthermore, there just isn't a "Dr Seuss brand" under which the LeSieg books are published. Many (all?) were published under the "Beginner Books" imprint, which of course uses Dr Seuss's Cat in the Hat as its logo, but they weren't officially called "Dr Seuss books". The only sense in which these are all Dr Seuss books is just the fact that they were all written by Dr Seuss, i.e. by Ted Geisel.
- I hope I don't sound like I'm ranting. I don't think it's a big deal, but I do think the other title is clearer. Thanks for all your recent work on the Seuss articles, and for organizing this list, which is mighty nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.142.57.72 (talk) 00:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Not to repeat myself, larger discussion is on the main Dr. Seuss page. Talk:Dr. Seuss#List of books by Dr SeussOldag07 (talk) 07:21, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- I am not sure what I was talking about 10 years ago. Oldag07 (talk) 22:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Separate "Beginner Books" from others?
editThe Beginner Books imprint started with The Cat in the Hat, and included, oh, maybe half of Dr Seuss's subsequent titles. It might be worth listing them separately, just because they are so different. Functionally, they are meant to be readable by very young children. In pursuit of this, they all have severely restricted vocabularies: fewer than 400 words (50 for Green Eggs and Ham). As a noteworthy consequence, they lack the made-up words common to much of Seuss's writing. They were published as a separate series, and even now are generally printed in smaller format.
If not separate lists, some note on each item (a "BB" next to the date?) indicating this might be a good idea.
On a similar note, "The Seven Lady Godivas" presents a rather odd case. It was originally published as a book "for adults", contains copious nudity, although it's completely non-sexualized (and for some reason, none of the women have nipples), and even to this day is not listed with all of his other works on the back of other Dr Seuss books. On the other hand, it reads perfectly like a children's book, and the illustrations are like any others he did (I think you'd have to be an incredible prude to find it at all unsuited for children). I read somewhere that he bemoaned his inability to draw women who were even remotely attractive.
Anyway, should that one too be given a separate heading? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.142.57.72 (talk) 00:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with many of your points. I am personally not an expert on Dr. Seuss's books, to actually think of decent categories. What do you suggest? Here is a brainstorm.
- Existing categories + beginners books section
- Timeline, divide into logical sections.
- theme of book?
Any others?Oldag07 (talk) 07:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Missing works
editThis is a complete list of Dr. Seuss's published books. Would it be worth expanding it into a complete list of his published works? This would include the following (with likely difficulties noted):
- His advertising and comic work in the 1930s. (Obviously, not listing every cartoon he drew. But there might be a way to systematically group many of them: E.g. "Advertising campaign(s) for Flit Bug Spray" as one entry; "Weekly cartoon for (newspaper)" as another.
- Published articles, etc., if there are any?
- Short fiction. The only one of these I know is "Gustav the Goldfish", which was published as an illustrated Dr Seuss story in Red Book Magazine, and later reworked by Helen Palmer into her book A Fish Out of Water, with new art by Eastman (see the details there). Are there a bunch of these stories still floating about out there that were never collected, and if so where is it possible to find out about them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.77.70.194 (talk) 18:22, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Images
editIt is clear the Hammersoft knows image policy far more than I, but I believe that book covers are appropriate for this page because it does follow the fair use guidelines. According to the image: The_kings_stilts.jpg the purpose of use for this page is:
- The image is used for identification in the context of critical commentary of the work for which it serves as cover art. It makes a significant contribution to the user's understanding of the article, which could not practically be conveyed by words alone. The image is placed at the beginning of the article or section discussing the work, to help the user quickly identify the work and know they have found what they are looking for. Use for this purpose does not compete with the purposes of the original work, namely the book cover creator's ability to provide book cover design services and in turn marketing books to the public.
Each picture is put beside commentary related to the book that cover relates to it. Moreover, none of his books have multiple covers. Oldag07 (talk) 18:41, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- It's the same issue as discographies. If a book is significant/notable enough that it has its own article, an image of the cover is appropriate on that article. For example, One Fish Two Fish Red Fish Blue Fish. To repeat the images here on this page is not in compliance with our policies and guidelines on fair use image use. I am reverting this use. If you wish to include the images, you can seek consensus to change the guideline and policy to support a usage like this at WT:NFC. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- Also note that most, if not all, the images lacked rationales for use on this article. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:02, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- I'll further note that of all the articles at Lists_of_books#Author_lists, only this article had per-each entry book covers on them. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
- And even further note that of the 174 articles in Category:Bibliographies by author, less than five had non-free covers at all. If that doesn't show standard practice, I don't know what else could :) --Hammersoft (talk) 19:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
TV merge
editThe List of Dr. Seuss Television adaptations page is quite short. We should merge the list of Dr. Seuss television adaptations into this page, and create a more organized "notes" section. Oldag07 (talk) 03:19, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
The Cat in the Hat's Learning Library
editI am thinking about adding the books form the Cat in the Hat's Learning Library. These are based of Dr. Seuss Characters, and there are 17 of them. . . Oldag07 (talk) 03:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
Are you talking about that Non-Animated junk?! I remember watching them. The HORROR! I added this notice into that section, to let other people know that those are not duplicate entries. (four of them already exist outside of this Book-On-Tape collection, and are fully animated)
This is what I typed. Please keep it.
"Dr. Seuss's learning library collection was a series released by Random House. They are a video version of a "book on tape". None of these productions are animated. This section does not contain duplicate entries. While Horton Hatches The Egg, How The Grinch Stole Christmas, Horton Hears A Who, and Because A Little Bug Went Ka-Choo!, were adapted into full animation, they were also adapted into a non-animated production for the Dr. Seuss's Learning Library."
Yet Another Missing Book?
editI'm a little dissappointed to see that "Are You My Mother?" is not on the list.--74.77.122.229 (talk) 21:56, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- "Are you my Mother?" was written by P. D. Eastman. Ozy42 (talk) 20:46, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Michael K. Frith
editIn a table we say of Come over to My House:
- Illustrator: Richard Erdoes (illustrated to Michael K. Frith)
What?
Perhaps this page should somewhere identify the scope of Frith's work as editor (as I understand). --P64 (talk) 16:41, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
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