Talk:Dracula (Universal film series)/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Andrzejbanas (talk · contribs) 12:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Paleface Jack (talk · contribs) 19:15, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Hello Andrzejbanas. I normally am not the reviewing type so this might be an unconventional one outside the usual structure that one might expect. Look forward to reviewing this.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:15, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   So far as I can tell, the prose is very strong.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

The beginning portion of the Films section could be placed under an Overview sub-section, for better flow.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Tried to tinker with this idea, What do you think? Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Seems decent now. My only concern is the text for each image, which probably can just be placed in the main body with the images having a shorter accompanying text. Paleface Jack (talk) 22:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

I've shortened down some of them and re-wrote the first one. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:37, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

1. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   Citations #19 and #20 should be combined.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I apologize, I've moved some sources around since you posted this, which sources were these? Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Same goes for the following citations:

• 1. 26-27; #28-30; #64-65.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

I know I've moved some sources around so I'm not sure which you meant, I did try to combine some that I assumed you may have been talking about. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Dont be afraid to cite the access date in your citation of American Film Institute within your citation.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

Done. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

I did a little digging and found some additional sources on Google Books that you ccan add to the article. They are as follows:--Paleface Jack (talk) 16:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

• Hollywood Gothic: The Tangled Web of Dracula from Novel to Stage to Screen (2004) by David J. Skal
• Count Dracula Goes to the Movies: Stoker's Novel Adapted, 1922-1995 (1999) by Lyndon W. Joslin
• Dracula in Visual Media: Film, Television, Comic Book and Electronic Game Appearances, 1921-2010 (2014) by John Edgar Browning and Caroline Joan Picart
• Dracula in the Dark: The Dracula Film Adaptations (1997) by James Craig Holte
• The Darkling: A Treatise on Slavic Vampirism (1989) by Jan Louis Perkowski - gives a little info on the first Dracula film.
• Of Gods and Monsters: A Critical Guide to Universal Studios' Science Fiction, Horror and Mystery Films, 1929-1939 (2015) by John T. Soister

1. It is broad in its coverage.

While I was unfamiliar with some of these sources, I did not find much specifics that aren't available in the Weaver or Rhodes books which are more current or have a grander scope. I'll add something from Count Dracula Goes to the Movies, but the others seem to mostly contain information about the films individually, with little about them as a series as a whole. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

1. a (major aspects): b (focused):

Out of curiosity have you seen any influence of this series on anything?--Paleface Jack (talk) 16:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

There is some information about this in the legacy section. The first two films set tropes of how classical vampires are seen and shown in classic Hollywood films, with the two sources specifically mentioning the first two films. The rest of it would probably go back and forth between how individual films are influential. It is difficult to write about film franchises or series without making them just regurgitate information that probably should go into their own articles, so I'm mostly trying to be concise here and find information on how the films relate or how they do not, and how the sum of them influences others. Andrzejbanas (talk) 13:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good.--Paleface Jack (talk) 01:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good. Paleface Jack (talk) 21:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

1. Nothing out of the ordinary here and perfect lies within the scope of GA.--Paleface Jack (talk) 19:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

2. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

3. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

4. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   The text in that first image has a couple of typos and should be shortened. Further information from each image, if not found and cited in the main body can be sortened and uncited if necessary.--Paleface Jack (talk) 21:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)--Paleface Jack (talk) 21:58, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

   You can also shrink the final image slightly so it fits the bottom better. Paleface Jack (talk) 21:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

I've shortened the descriptions and re-wrote the text in the first one. I don't think we need to change the size or scale of the images though, as everyone can easily change the text size and layout in the browser or are reading the article on their phone, the scale and size of images to fit text doesn't really hold anymore. Anyways, I think I've addressed everything @Paleface Jack:. Andrzejbanas (talk) 22:37, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Agreed.--Paleface Jack (talk) 01:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

1. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

@Paleface Jack:, outside the numeral sources, I think I addressed what you have discussed so far. Andrzejbanas (talk) 19:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Well done, you have passed.--Paleface Jack (talk) 01:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

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