Talk:Drag (Austin, Texas)

Requests for Improvement

calling all austinites, our beloved and very notable street is in danger of being deleted. we all know guadalupe is intertwined into the fabric of austin. any contributions that can be made to convey the importance of this place will be greatly appreciated.

This article is horrible. There are no sources for anything; it needs a major overhaul.Lieftastic 04:27, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

---

Seriously -- no one could find a photo better than a snapshot of a Chase Bank to represent The Drag?? What about Goodall-Wooten Dorms, and the long-gone Quackenbush's and Tower Records? Dobie Mall? The crazy homeless lady who habitually assaulted unsuspecting Black students? This article could be better-written by a failing UT journalism freshman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.243.66.186 (talk) 17:48, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

The bank is at the far south end (what some people might not consider the most typical segment), and now houses a "truther" bookstore in its basement... AnonMoos (talk) 11:42, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

---

Here's a photo that could be better: File:Streaking through campus (3643104300).jpg -- Brainy J ~✿~ (talk) 02:56, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

That's a good photo of the "Castilian" private dorm (which is not on the Drag), taken from the Drag; not so sure it's a good photo of the Drag itself... AnonMoos (talk) 07:13, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Ixfd64 (talk) 19:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

---

Drag (Austin, Texas) → The Drag – This landmark district was originally at the proposed title and appears to be the most common subject referred to as the Drag. According to a cursory news search, there have been multiple mentions of it in just the past month (e.g. 1 2 3), while more general searches turn up no indication of other places with similar notability profiles as suggested by the disambiguation page. There may be an argument to be made in consideration of Mae West's play—The Drag—but a glance at her biography article reveals little indication of this subject's relative importance by way of comparison.   — C M B J   09:15, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose - Only locally notable. The Drag should redirect to Drag disambiguation. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:47, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

The two terms are not sufficiently related to handle this way. The Drag, uppercase, appears only in reference to proper names — from what I gather, at least three songs, one short film, one play, one virtual place, and one physical place — the latter appearing by far most prevalent in popular usage. Though some disambiguations are mixed (i.e., all terms at rock, or all terms divided up between The Beach and beach), this distinction of The Drag → The Drag (disambiguation) → Drag follows the same logic as The Strip → The Strip (disambiguation) → Strip, which is more similar in nature.   — C M B J   11:38, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Yes, your proposal has some merit, those points are recognized, but all the same The Strip is only a redirect to Las Vegas Strip. So a comparison would only justify The Drag redirecting to Drag (Austin, Texas). In ictu oculi (talk) 14:56, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose per IIO, it should redirect to the disambiguation page at Drag. And the disambiguation page at The Drag (disambiguation) should be merged to the disambiguation page at Drag. There seems very little to indicate that Austin's drag is the primary topic, doing some basic Google searches don't seem to give much prominence to Austin. -- 65.94.171.206 (talk) 00:53, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

It is difficult to assess the importance of this topic with a regular search, largely due to the wealth of physics and lifestyle texts that are structured in such a way that Google's algorithms fail to distinguish them from a term. This becomes apparent with a little syntax fu:

• "By George, which Katy Culmo took over in 1979, when it was on the drag of the University of Texas campus, is that you get an unbrainwashed point of view about fashion." - New York Times
• "There are still pockets of counterculture -- the hippiesque street market on the west side of the University of Texas campus on Guadalupe Street (the Drag, to locals); the totally time-warped sidewalk cafe Les Amis (haven for local poets), which slouches comfortably at the corner of West 24th and San Antonio Streets; and the Magnolia Cafe, where friendly, daffy waitpersons (surely the term was invented in Austin) dispense nocturnal blueberry pancakes." New York Times
• "For example, she said, students often call homeless people "drag worms," a word play on "the drag," a street bordering the campus, which is popular among the homeless people." New York Times
• "He's riding shotgun, his right arm is hanging out the window as if he's in the lead car in the homecoming parade in Amarillo, as if he's gone cruising downtown Fort Worth in a T-Bird, as if there's somebody out on the drag by the University of Texas whose attention he desperately wants to get, as if it's Midland in the 1950s or Houston in the 1960s and the smiling mothers on the baking sidewalk are halfheartedly shielding their curious daughters' eyes." New York Times
• "The Drag, a popular retail strip with everything from trendy swimsuits to 10 varieties of granola, provides shoppers and hangers-out with appropriate fare."New York Times
• "The musician Lucinda Williams dreamed up the 34-year-old bazaar as a way to get artists out of the bad weather on the Drag, the main thoroughfare of the University of Texas, during the holiday season." - New York Times
• "All along Guadalupe Street in Austin, the drag where the street kids spread their wares—pipes, jars, paintings, posters—there were the predictable signs." - Sports Illustrated
• The Varsity Theater, a dusty art-house cinema right on Guadalupe Street (a.k.a. "the drag"), where I saw "Wings of Desire" dozens of times, becomes a Tower Records? Say it ain't so. - Washington Post
• "Once you're seated, you're handed a fancy embossed postcard of a menu that boasts six dishes ESK regularly serves on the Drag, South Lamar and other Austin streets." - Washington Post
• "People knew her as the disturbed -- and disturbing -- street person shuffling along "the Drag" near the University of Texas campus, mumbling to herself and wearing layer upon layer of grimy, mismatched clothes." - Washington Post
• "Besides being the state capital, Austin is home to the prestigious University of Texas, and the epicentre of the university district is Guadalupe Street (known affectionately as “The Drag”)." Lonely Planet
• "The Drag is a portion of Guadalupe Street that runs adjacent to UT from 21st through 28th streets, similar to the way the Ohio State campus runs from Lane Avenue through Chittenden Avenue on High Street." The Lantern
• "Meek believes the Drag is enhanced by the presence of homeless people. "If the cops did wipe out everyone off the Drag -- the place wouldn't be the same, and I think a lot of the [UT] students would miss that," he says." Austin Chronicle
• One cannot visit Austin without hitting Dirty Martin's Kum Bak Hamburgers at the north end of the Drag [Guadalupe Street], which runs past the entrance to the university. - The Guardian
• It's a warm, early-70s summer day in Austin, Texas, and I'm strolling along Guadalupe, "The Drag," with my buddies Troy and Ronnie." - San Francisco Bay Area Reporter
• Cycle Track Opens on Austin's “The Drag” - Momentum Mag
• "Known as the Drag, the busy street was lined with businesses and formed the western boundary of the UT campus." - TruTV
• "Along the busy strip of Guadalupe Street known as the Drag, eateries and coffeehouses served a steady stream of students in search of burritos, pita pockets, or free wi-fi. - The Chronicle of Higher Education
• "Immediately following the game's conclusion (4:30 pm), many students and other local fans began driving along “the Drag,” the section of Guadalupe Street bounding the western edge of the University campus (see Figure 1)." - Victory Celebrations As Theater: A Dramaturgical Approach To Crowd Behavior
• "This section of the street has long been known as the Drag, prompting students to refer derisively to the hippie tramps and other homeless who frequent it on occasion as “Drag worms.”" - Down on Their Luck: A Study of Homeless Street People
• The Drag on Guadalupe Street, Austin (Drag Worm; Drag Rat) - Barry Popik's site
• "Also know as "the drag" this historic shopping district is one of the busiest pedestrian zones in the state with thousands of students, faculty and staff crowding its sidewalks." - Austin Now
• Down on the Drag - Texas Monthly

There is certainly no other The Drag that rises to this level of prominence, unless it would be the play, but even then it is not uncommon for two articles of similar importance to simply make use of a {{for}} hatnote.   — C M B J   11:57, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

• Oppose original request. Austin's "The Drag" does not rise to the level of renown necessary to command primary topic status. The Drag should redirect to Drag. I am neutral on other suggestions arising from this request. Xoloz (talk) 20:23, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

---

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Drag (Austin, Texas). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

• Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070822121628/http://www.6street.com/6s_pg_guadalupe.htm to http://www.6street.com/6s_pg_guadalupe.htm

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

• If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
• If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 15:58, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Scientology building

It's a prominent part of the drag (a large building at a key intersection), but it's been undergoing major reconstruction for the past few years, and I'm not sure whether it will still be devoted to Scientology after the construction finishes... AnonMoos (talk) 09:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)