Talk:Dragon King

In the bottum post thingy magig.....

I posted about the dragon worlds king, and patriarcs. Maybe thats what you ment=== —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.177.132.224 (talk) 01:32, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Personal names

I tried to find their personal names, but they all seem to only have royal titles. They're probably like the Jade Emperor, whose name, if even existing, is very very obscure, and worshippers always call them, out of convention and/or respect, their titles. --Menchi 13:59 29 Jun 2003 (UTC)

@Menchi: Meng Zhang (孟章) is the human name Taoism assingns to the Azure Dragon according to the Four Auspicious Beasts (Four Symbols) article, but I've never seen this info myself.

Ao Guang is given as the name of the Azure Dragon King of the Eastern Sea, which I vaguely recall from Fengshen Yanyi.

In Journey to the West they are named Aoguang (East) Aoguang (S), Aoguang (N), Aorun (W).[1]

Or in Wade-Giles repreesentation, Ao-kuang (E) Aoqin (S), Aoshun (N), Ao-jun (W).[2] --Kiyoweap (talk) 05:12, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

What is this doing in the main article?

--203.213.58.32 07:32, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

Their origin.

I think we should add some information about the origin of dragon kings. In fact the idea of dragon kings come from Buddhism. The dragon kings are a mixture of Chinese dragons and the naga kings. Can anyone add this to the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.114.254 (talk) 00:18, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

The dragons king's some kind of mixture between the Chinese dragon and the Indian naga king. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Shinbu3 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC).

There are eight great dragon kings in Buddhism, of which Sāgara (Dragon King) is associated with the ocean.

The Azure Dragon of the East dates to Former Han period. The amount of scholarship that backs the Buddhist dragon kings as origins of Azure Dragon seems to be underwhelming, AFAICT. So this line of pursuing "origins" need not be insisted upon, IMO. --Kiyoweap (talk) 04:40, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Jagrat Kumar (Purwa)

My name is jagrat. I am 15 years old are live in india state u.p. distt unnao tehsil Purwa — Preceding unsigned comment added by JAGRAT (talk • contribs) 07:21, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 25 August 2016

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The result of the move request was: Not moved  — Amakuru (talk) 21:02, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

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Dragon King → Longshen – Use of the untranslated Chinese pinyin term. This would be better as "Longshen" (Dragon God) is more general than "Longwang" (Dragon King), in other words "Longshen" includes the Dragon Kings as well as other Dragon Gods. Keep it untranslated as Chinese characters/words cover entire semantic fields and don't have univocal translation in Western languages (i.e. in our case "shen" can be translated as "god", "spirit", "soul", "numen", "intelligence", etc.). – Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 07:43, 25 August 2016 (UTC) --Relisting. No such user (talk) 08:33, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:52, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

• @Aethelwolf Emsworth and Andy M. Wang: It's unclear whether WP:ENGLISH or WP:PINYIN should apply here. Worthy of a discussion? If there's no other notable "Longshen", there's no need for a parenthesized dab. — Andy W. (talk · ctb) 15:07, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose, even if this is an imprecise translation, "Dragon King" still appears to be the WP:COMMONNAME.--Prisencolin (talk) 01:56, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
• Oppose. Overmyer, the article's main source, uses "Dragon King."[3] (Fourteen index listings are given on page 217.) Let's not play translator. The light bringer (talk) 07:11, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

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Sea dragon king

Is Sea dragons Real? In japan There is somebody.. Aka rujin he is the Sea Dragon King Of Snakes And Dragons as you can tell by his looks. Snakes were consdired snakes death❤️‍🔥 He is the 8th Sea king of dragons and Snakes Thats all for today! 2600:387:C:6C17:0:0:0:7 (talk) 20:56, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Five Regions dragons separate from Four Seas dragons

Tom, K. S. (1989), p. 55 which is cited only talks about the five regions (4 directions and center), nothing about the seas: "An azure or blue dragon symbolized the east and was identified with spring. Red or yellow dragons represented the south and summer. A white dragon was associated with the west and autumn, while a black dragon stood for the north and winter. "

Since source doesn't say so, equating the dragon of the east in this schema with the dragon of the east sea, or to Ao Guang from the novel constitutes WP:SYNTH. Please stick to the source.--Kiyoweap (talk) 21:49, 13 October 2022 (UTC)