Talk:Dragons RFC

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Gwent has a gap in the large spectator sports team market. Newport Gwent Dragons were perceived as the way to capture a naturally large rugby watching audience but in truth, Newport Rugby Football Club 1999-2004 were more successful at doing that than the Newport Gwent Dragons have ever been. However, any successful spectator sport franchise (Chelsea FC included) need financial support far beyond the means of ticket and merchandise income and the Newport Gwent Dragons are suffering with insufficiant funds to seriously challenge for the Celtic League and Heineken Cup competitions.

1999-2004? you mean 2002-2003. in 1999-2000 the average attendance was just over 1000. see citation 5 in the main article.

Misleading

In the controvesy section the article compares attendence from Newport RFC and the Dragons and concludes that 'The Club' has lost support. This is misleading in the extreme. This implies that Newport RFC and the Dragons are the same entity when in fact they are nothing of the sort.

This paragraph could (and IMHO should) be reworded to reflect that the old Newport RFC had better attendences than the 'New Regional team the Newport Gwent Dragons'. The distinction should be clear. Adam777

A couple of citations should be added to the controvery section. Any rugby fan in Wales can attest to the two issues I highlighted but anyone without familiarity to the issue could use some citations. With that addition and a disctinction made between the Newport RFC of old and the current Regional team then I think most of the NPOV issues would be resolved. Adam777 14:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Controversy.

much of this article, and the controversy section especially, is opinion, rather than fact. As an example, it is stated that rodney parade will shortly face serious health and safety issues. really? is there anything at all to substantiate that? or is it just opinion? and if so, whose? by the admission of the cited article (citation 5), the attendance at Rodney Parade was only just over a thousand in 1999/2000, so is a one off season average of 8,302 relevant?

This article is a mess. a misleading mess. Nickparlow 17:20, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Have done my best to improve the neutrality a little bit. There was a huge Newport bias in this section, which I hope I have removed. Shenko316 (talk) 11:46, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

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Squad

Could someone look at the squad and adjust it to size since there are players there that aren't in the Magners League squad for NGD

Abbreviation

One of the things we try to achieve in Wikipedia is consistency, i.e the organization and presentation of information uniformly across articles.

I've noticed recently that some anon ISPs have been changing the abbreviation of the team name in players' infoboxes from NG Dragons to Newport GD. In my view this is being done for partisan reasons, not for the enlightenment of readers, and has led to an inconsistency of style.

I am well aware of the controversy surrounding the original name of the team and I don't want to stir up a hornet's nest, but since the team represents the entire Gwent region I feel the original abbreviation (NG Dragons) was not only clear, but impartial. I recently had to explain to an English sports journalist the difference between Newport and the Newport Gwent Dragons. If a sports journalist is confused what hope is there for the general reader? We should try to be as clear as possible and Newport GD only serves to obfuscate. I propose that when abbreviated the side should always be referred to as NG Dragons.Thoughts? ♦ Jongleur¹⁰⁰ ♦ ^talk 11:49, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

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