Talk:Drift netting
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it is not a good idea to merge them. but it is a good idea to link them together. Jackzhp 14:06, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
- I agree with Jackzhp --Xarvia 23:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- But a drift net works precisely the same way as a gillnet; it is just deployed differently. Does that warrant two articles? 146.243.4.157 (talk) 16:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- There is often a kind of background confusion in fishing about what is tackle (equipment) and what is a technique (method). The tackle is what is used, the technique is how it is used. Often the tackle determines the technique. Then it seems like they are same thing when they are not. A "gill net" is a piece of tackle. "Drift netting" is a technique, a way of using gill nets. There is nothing wrong with gill nets as such, but it can be problematic when they are used for drift netting. Drift netting is an important topic in its own right, quite apart from the particular type of net that is called a "gill net". Anyway, I've renamed this article "Drift netting", since this maybe reduces the confusion a little. --This offering from the ancient and terminally afflicted pedant, Geronimo20 (talk) 20:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
- Gill-netting is legal, drift-netting isn't....that's a pretty impotant distinction; and the distinction is also one of scale - Gillnets are not 50km long....nor left to drift ("harvest") for months at a time.....Skookum1 (talk) 16:06, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- There is often a kind of background confusion in fishing about what is tackle (equipment) and what is a technique (method). The tackle is what is used, the technique is how it is used. Often the tackle determines the technique. Then it seems like they are same thing when they are not. A "gill net" is a piece of tackle. "Drift netting" is a technique, a way of using gill nets. There is nothing wrong with gill nets as such, but it can be problematic when they are used for drift netting. Drift netting is an important topic in its own right, quite apart from the particular type of net that is called a "gill net". Anyway, I've renamed this article "Drift netting", since this maybe reduces the confusion a little. --This offering from the ancient and terminally afflicted pedant, Geronimo20 (talk) 20:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
North Pacific Fleet
editRe this:
- However, Japanese drift net fishing began to draw public attention in the mid-1980s when Japan and other Asian countries began to send large fleets to the North Pacific Ocean to catch mainly tuna and squid. Japan operated about 900 drift net vessels earning around $300 million a year.
FWIR in the drift net politicking-era in BC, 85% of the North Pacific driftnet fleet was owned by Hyundai; maybe the boats were licensed in Japan, though. Poached salmon turned up (and turns up) in canned goods frmo Thailand, Indonesia, Taiwan - packaged there by Japanese/Korean resellers maybe (now), but part of the issue in BC was that countries that had no rights to the salmon were involved in the harvest/sale of "accidentally" caught salmon. Also included in the North Pacific Salmon Commission]] were Russia and (South) Korea; under int'l salmon law only those countries where salmon spawn have the right to harvest them.....Skookum1 (talk) 16:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Dolphin deaths
editOne of the biggest issues during hte debate in teh '80s was the "accidental" killing of dolphins and other cetaceans, which is where teh dolphin-friendly markings on canned tuna came from, i.e. to prove they hadn't been harvested by techniques that endangered cetaceans and other species such as sea turtles and walruses, seals etc. Not sure where to fit this in, or look for cites, but....also I remember that during teh heyday of the North Pacific nets there was moer cdolphin etc available in Japanese markets as a result of the "accidental" slaughterSkookum1 (talk) 16:08, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
Future Additions
editI am currently doing a case study on driftnetting for a conservation biology class. I am new to Wikipedia and a first time article editor. We are required to post our information online for others to see so over the next couple of weeks I will be adding information to this article. Lunchbox89 (talk) 20:27, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Your additions are very welcome --Epipelagic (talk) 05:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
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